[00:00:01] >> TEN O'CLOCK, FEBRUARY 4TH, [1.01 Call to Order] I'M CALLING TO ORDER THE BOARD OF EDUCATION OF CECIL COUNTY FY '26 BUDGET WORK SESSION. PLEASE STAND AS MR. DAVIS LEADS US IN THE PLEDGE. NEXT, WE HAVE OUR BOARD DISCUSSION ON THE FY '26 BUDGET. [1.03 Board Discussion FY26 Budget] ALL OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS DID RECEIVE THIS DRAFT INTERNAL DOCUMENT I BELIEVE LAST WEDNESDAY. I JUST WANT TO THANK MISS SOPA AND YOUR BUSINESS SERVICES TEAM FOR PUTTING THIS PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE THING TOGETHER FOR US ONCE AGAIN THIS YEAR. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO DR. LAWSON. >> THANK YOU, MISS HAWLEY. JUST TO ECHO YOUR COMMENTS, I APPRECIATE MISS SOPA AND HER STAFF AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE LEADERSHIP TEAM FOR GOING THROUGH AND VETTING THESE NUMBERS. AS I THINK I MENTIONED TO THE BOARD AT OUR LAST HEARING, THIS WORK REALLY BEGINS IN NOVEMBER WHERE MISS SOPA AND THE LEADERSHIP TEAM BRING IN PROGRAM LEADERS, PROGRAM MANAGERS. THEY VET THEIR REQUESTS, TRY TO PARE IT DOWN TO SOME LEVEL OF EXPECTATION THAT MATCH OUR EXPECTED REVENUES, AND I WILL SPEAK ABOUT REVENUES IN A MOMENT. BUT AGAIN, A WHOLE LOT OF WORK GOES BEHIND THE SCENES. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OPPORTUNITY YOU ALL HAVE HAD TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT, BUT THERE'S SEVERAL PAGES OF VERY GRANULAR LEVEL OF REQUESTS, OF WHICH WE ASK YOUR INPUT, YOUR THOUGHTS. WE WILL TRY TO SHARE THE RATIONALE BEHIND EACH OF THESE REQUESTS, AND JUST PUT OUT THERE FOR YOUR DISCUSSION AND HOPEFULLY AT THE END OF THIS MEETING TODAY, WE'LL TAKE DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL. WE WILL TURN AROUND, I GUESS, POTENTIALLY MENTION SOME OF IT ON THE 12TH DEPENDING. BUT AGAIN, OUR EXPECTATION THAT WE WOULD RECEIVE A FAVORABLE VOTE FROM YOU ON FEBRUARY '26, WHICH POINT IT GETS SENT TO THE COUNTY, AND THEN THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE SCHWANDT WILL HAVE UNTIL THE END OF MARCH TO GENERATE HIS BUDGET. AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF UNCERTAINTY RIGHT NOW AS IT RELATES TO PENDING LEGISLATION IN MARYLAND IN ANNAPOLIS. SUNNY DIE IS NOT UNTIL APRIL 7TH, SO I WOULD ALMOST EXPECT A SCENARIO WHERE THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE IS BEING ASKED TO SUBMIT A BUDGET WITHOUT LAWS HAVING BEEN PASSED AND SIGNED, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE HIM, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO GO BACK AND POTENTIALLY ADJUST HIS BUDGET, WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY REQUIRE YOU ALL TO COME BACK AND ADDRESS A REVISED BUDGET ON OUR PART. THERE'S A LOT MOVING AND FRANKLY, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S ALL GOING TO BE SETTLED UNTIL SOMETIME DURING THE SUMMER. BUT AGAIN, WE CAN GET THE LINE SHARE OF THE WORK DONE NOW. AGAIN, I ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER INTERRUPTING, ASKING QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY. I THINK WE'RE PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE. JUST TO REDIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE ANTICIPATED REVENUE IF WE COULD GO OVER THIS. STARTING WITH THE LOCAL SIDE, WHAT WE SHARE WITH YOU IS THIS IS WHAT THE BUDGET WAS APPROVED FROM THE COUNTY LAST YEAR. WE ARE CURRENTLY CALCULATING FY '26 LOCAL SHARE TO BE 992. THAT THAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM THAT THE COUNTY IS REQUIRED TO CONTRIBUTE TO OUR BUDGET. NOW THAT SAID, ANY LEGISLATION THAT IMPACTS THE FOUNDATION FORMULA TO THE STATE SIDE ALSO APPLIES TO THE LOCAL SIDE. IF THERE WERE LEGISLATIVE CHANGES THAT ARE MADE THAT REDUCE THE STATE SHARE, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE, THE 147, IT CORRESPONDINGLY REDUCES THIS. THE SAME, IF LEGISLATION COMES THAT ADDS TO THAT, IT ADDS TO THIS. BUT AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY POTENTIAL LEGISLATION THAT WOULD ADD TO THE FOUNDATION, BUT IF ANYTHING, REDUCE THE FOUNDATION. AGAIN, THIS IS COMING FROM OUR SOURCES THROUGH THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENTS ASSOCIATION, AS WELL AS THE MABE, THE ASSOCIATION FOR BOARDS OF EDUCATION. THAT SAID, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW THERE WOULD BE AN EXPECTED INCREASE, A MINIMUM OF $1.6 MILLION FROM THE COUNTY. COMING ON THE STATE SIDE, WE EXPECT A MINIMUM OF A $5.4 MILLION INCREASE. NOW, THERE IS CONSIDERABLE DISCUSSION AS IT RELATES TO PAUSING THE BLUEPRINT, SPECIFICALLY, NOT FUNDING THE COLLABORATIVE PLANNING TIME COMPONENT THAT'S IN STATUTE. NOW, IF THEY DON'T FUND THE COLLABORATIVE PLANNING TIME, THAT IS A $163 PER STUDENT REDUCTION TO THAT, AND THAT IS ABOUT $2.3 MILLION THAT COMES OFF OF THAT. WE ALSO KNOW THAT IN THIS $5.4 MILLION, IS A $1.9 MILLION INCREASE ON BEHALF OF OUR CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY SCHOOLS. [00:05:03] THAT MONEY CAN ONLY BE SPENT ON THE CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY SCHOOLS. SPECIFIC TO THOSE SCHOOLS, IT HAS TO BE SPENT ON A COMMUNITY SCHOOL ADVISOR, AS WELL AS A NURSE, AND THERE ARE OTHER WRAPAROUND SUPPORTS BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL. BUT AGAIN, IF YOU TAKE OFF THE $2 MILLION IN CHANGE HERE FOR COLLABORATIVE PLANNING AND THE $1.9 MILLION SET ASIDE, NOW YOU'RE UP TO $4 MILLION OF THE 5.4. THIS MONEY IT LOOKS AS AN INCREASE. IT DEFINITELY STARTS TO GET WHITTLED AWAY, AND IT IS NOT THERE TO SUPPORT SALARIES, END OR FIXED CHARGES, WHICH IS WHERE THE LINE SHARE OF OUR INCREASE. MISS HAWLEY, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >> I DO. THANK YOU. HOW ABOUT THE PENSION? IS THAT INCLUDED IN THAT NUMBER? >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE PENSION INCREASE THAT'S EXPECTED TO BE ABSORBED BY THE COUNTY IS COMING FROM THE BRFA PROCESS, WHICH IS THE BUDGET RECONCILIATION PROCESS. I AM UNCLEAR AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT 1.2 MILLION, WHICH IS WHAT IT IS, WILL COME OUT OF THIS. I'VE HEARD BOTH NOW. PAUSE ON THAT. WE JUST DON'T KNOW YET. >> THANK YOU. >> COMING FROM OUR FEDERAL MONEY, YOU CAN SEE A DECREASE. YOU'RE FAMILIAR BY NOW WITH WHAT THE FEDERAL SOURCES ARE. THAT'S BASICALLY OUR TITLE MONEY, TITLE 1, 2, 3, 4. SPECIAL EDUCATION PIECE OF THAT'S IN THERE AS WELL, SO WE EXPECT A REDUCTION THERE. OUR OTHER REVENUE, THERE'S A DECREASE HERE. RIGHT NOW WE'RE EXPECTING AS CURRENT LEGISLATION ARTICULATES A $6.1 MILLION INCREASE IN STATE AND LOCAL REVENUE COMBINED. I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY AS ACCURATE AS WE CAN POSSIBLY BE FOR THE MOMENT. AGAIN, WE CAN COME BACK TO THIS AT ANY TIME, AND WE WILL LIKELY SHOW THIS TO YOU AGAIN LATER THIS MONTH. SECOND THING I'D LIKE TO DO BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO MISS SOPA IS TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE STRUCTURE OF THIS DAY IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. WHAT WE HAVE UP HERE ARE FOUR SLIDES THAT WILL BE REFERRED TO THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION PRIMARILY BY DR. BUCKLEY AND DR. HAMMER. IF YOU LOOK OVER HERE ON THE LEFT FLANK IN THE PACKETS THAT YOU RECEIVED LAST WEEK, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY BREAKDOWN CAN BE FOUND ON PAGE 28. IF YOU GO INTO YOUR BINDER ON PAGE 28, YOU WILL SEE THOSE LINE BY LINE DETAILS THAT SHOW WHERE THE $511,000 INCREASE IS COMING. YOU CAN GO RIGHT ALONG HERE ON THE LEFT AND YOU WILL BE ABLE TO FOLLOW ME ON THIS, SO THAT BASICALLY THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE SHARED WITH YOU LAST WEEK IS WHAT I WOULD CALL THE ROLL UP TO THE DETAIL THAT YOU NOW HAVE IN THE BINDER IN FRONT OF YOU. IT'S CLOSE TO ONE TO ONE CORRESPONDENCE. CAN YOU JUMP TO THE NEXT SLIDE? I DIDN'T KNOW I COULD DO THAT. COME RIGHT ON THROUGH, RIGHT ON DOWN. THE QUESTIONS STRUCTURE WISE, HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS. IF AT ANY TIME, YOU FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING TOO FAST, I'VE ASKED THE THREE LEADERSHIP TEAM MENUS IF THEY'RE GOING TO POINT TO SPECIFIC LINES UP HERE TO HAVE THE CURSOR SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY ARE, AND IF NOT, IT'LL BE DULY NOTED ON NEXT YEAR'S EVALUATION, JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN KEEP TRACK. AS NUMBERS ARE BEING TOSSED OUT TO YOU, I WANT YOU TO KNOW WHERE THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY STAND FOR, AS OPPOSED TO YOU ALL SEARCHING FOR THE $42,900 THAT YOU CAN'T FIND WHILE DR. BUCKLEY IS TALKING ABOUT IT. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU STAY UP ON THIS. AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE ASK. >> DR. LAWSON, CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY? >> YES. >> WITH THE POTENTIAL FREEZE IN FUNDING AND EVERYTHING, SINCE WE HAVE ADDITIONAL SCHOOLS THIS YEAR AROUND, HOW WILL THAT AFFECT US OR HOW COULD IT AFFECT US? >> WE'RE HEARING THAT IT WILL NOT AFFECT OR CHANGE ANYTHING FOR FY '26. WE'RE HEARING THAT OUR BUDGET FOR '26 AND OUR ADDITIONAL SCHOOLS FOR '26 WILL STAY. BUT WHAT'S PROPOSED IN THE LEGISLATION IS A FREEZE FOR FY '27. WHATEVER OUR FUNDING LEVEL ON OUR SCHOOLS ARE FOR '26 WOULD REMAIN THE SAME FOR '27. WE DO BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME WORK TO DO WITH CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY BUDGETING BECAUSE WE RECEIVED OUR NUMBERS RIGHT BEFORE OUR LAST MEETING. >> THAT'S GOING TO BE AN AREA WHERE I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A HANDS OFF APPROACH ON LEGISLATION. YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY THIS BEFORE OVER THE YEARS, THAT WE CAN ARGUE THE MERITS AND THE WORTHINESS, IF YOU WILL, OF THE FIVE PILLARS, WHETHER IT'S PRE K, WHETHER IT'S NATIONAL BOARD CERTIFICATION, COLLEGE CAREER READY, DUAL ENROLLMENT, ALL THOSE. I THINK STAND ALONE, THEY ALL HAVE MERIT. WHEN THE STATE LOOKS TO IMPACT ONE OF THOSE, THERE ARE ADVOCATES LINED UP TO DEFEND THOSE INTERESTS. I THINK CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY IS A GREAT EXAMPLE. IF THE STATE LOOKS TO PAUSE ON CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY FUNDING, THEY WILL HEAR VERY LOUDLY FROM THOSE COMMUNITIES WHO STAND TO GAIN FROM THESE PROGRAMS. [00:10:05] THE STATE ALSO IS NOW SAYING THAT WHERE THEY ARE SEEING THE MOST TEST SCORE GROWTH ARE IN THE CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY SCHOOLS BECAUSE THEY'RE PUSHING IN THE EXTRA RESOURCES. IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THE DYNAMICS IN THE BACKDROP OF THE BLUEPRINT. >> JUST A QUICK FOLLOW UP ON THAT. WHERE DOES CECIL COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS RANK, IF YOU KNOW THIS ANSWER ABOUT COMMUNITY SCHOOLS AND SO FORTH, AS OPPOSED TO THE REST OF THE STATE? >> WELL, I'M SURE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH OUR 17TH RANKING IN TERMS OF WEALTH. WE HAVE 11 OR 13 COP SCHOOLS? >> RIGHT NOW, THIS YEAR WE HAVE NINE COP SCHOOLS. >> WE'RE BRINGING IN TWO MORE, SO WE WILL BE AT 11 OF OUR '29? >> THE STATE IS 40%, I BELIEVE. >> THAT'S CLOSE TO WHERE WE ARE. IT'S ALMOST EXACTLY RIGHT. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MISS SOPA. >> GOOD MORNING. AS DR. LAWSON STATED, WE TOOK THE SLIDES FROM THE LAST BOARD MEETING BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE CONNECTION BETWEEN WHAT WE DISPLAYED AT THE LAST MEETING VERSUS WHAT IS IN THE BOOK TO HELP YOU SEE THE CONNECTION, SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THESE TOTALS AS HE STATED HERE. YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THEM ON THESE PAGES AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE DETAIL RELATED. UNFORTUNATELY, THEY DON'T GO IN A NICE NEAT ORDER BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GO IN NUMERIC ORDER, BUT AT A CERTAIN POINT, WE'LL JUMP FROM ADMIN SERVICES TO ED SERVICES. BUT IF YOU NEED TO REFER BACK TO IT, WE INCLUDED PAGE NUMBERS HERE. THERE ONLY HAPPENS TO BE ONE GIFTED AND TALENTED WE REALIZED YESTERDAY. BECAUSE OF THIS YEAR ZERO BUDGET AND NEXT YEAR ZERO BUDGET, IT DIDN'T PULL INTO THE PIVOT TABLE. YOU WON'T SEE THAT IN THIS REPORT, BUT YOU DO SEE THE TOTAL REFLECTED HERE. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THERE ARE NOT GIFTED AND TALENTED POSITIONS. THESE ARE SUPPLY BUDGETS, LIKE SUPPLIES, CONTRACTED SERVICES. ANY QUESTIONS THERE? WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY START ON PAGE 27, BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU A COUPLE OF THINGS. AT THE FRONT OF THE BOOK, THOSE ARE REALLY SUMMARY REPORTS. THE FIRST ONE IS REALLY JUST A REVENUE SUMMARY SHOWING YOU WHERE THE REVENUE IS COMING FROM. THEY DON'T REALLY GIVE YOU THE DETAIL AND THE PURPOSE FOR TODAY WAS TO WALK THROUGH THE DETAIL. ON PAGE 1, YOU JUST SEE A BUDGET REVENUE SUMMARY. THE REVENUE SLIDE THAT DR. LAWSON JUST REVIEWED, THIS SHOWS YOU THE DIFFERENT PIECES OF REVENUE. >> ON PAGE 1 WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TUITION, WHAT IS THAT TUITION? NOBODY PAYS TO COME TO CPS, SO WHAT'S TUITION? >> SOMETIMES PEOPLE DO PAY TUITION DEPENDING ON OUT OF COUNTY LIVING TUITION EXPENSES. IT DEPENDS WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN KINSHIP CARE OR FOSTER CARE AND THEY'RE OUT OF COUNTY. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALWAYS KNOW AHEAD OF TIME. IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE AN ACTUAL. SOMETIMES YOU CAN PREDICT IT THEY. >> ACTUALLY HAVE TO PAY TO COME HERE? >> WE HAVE TO PAY WHEN STUDENTS ARE IN ANOTHER SCHOOL SYSTEM. >> IF A STUDENT FROM KENT COUNTY WANTED TO ATTEND CECIL COUNTY, WE'RE WITHIN OUR RIGHTS TO CHARGE A TUITION. >> BUT IF WE HAD A STUDENT FROM DELAWARE WHO ORIGINATED HERE. >> THEN WE HAVE ANY OUT OF STATE. >> BUT I THOUGHT THERE WERE TIMES WHEN WE HAD TO TAKE OUT OF STATE PEOPLE OR OUT OF COUNTY PEOPLE. >> THAT IS MCKINNEY-VENTO, AND IF THE FAMILY IS HOMELESS, WE'RE REQUIRED TO TAKE THEM TO THEIR SCHOOL OF ORIGIN. IF A FAMILY LIVES IN A GILPIN THEATER AND SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THEY'RE FORCED TO BE REMOVED FROM THEIR HOME AND THEY'RE THEREFORE HOMELESS, WE'RE REQUIRED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ATTEND THEIR SCHOOL OF ORIGIN, SO THEY CAN STAY AT GILPIN IF THEY CHOOSE. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> BUT THEY'RE NOT PAYING. >> THEN DONATIONS, GIFTS, AND REQUESTS, THAT'S JUST DONATIONS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN? >> YES, ESPECIALLY LAST YEAR, THE REBATE IN FY '24 WAS ONE THAT WAS SIGNIFICANT, AND THEN THOSE FUNDS WERE USED FOR FY '25 BUDGET. >> THAT MAKES SENSE. >> BUT YOU'LL NOTICE WE'RE NOT BUDGETING ANY MONEY FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BUDGET REVENUE FOR THAT. >> AGAIN, THAT'S A REVENUE SLIDE. IT'S MONEY THAT'S COMING IN. >> THIS TRIES TO BREAK DOWN SOME OF THE MISCELLANEOUS OTHER REVENUE THAT YOU RECEIVE SOME YEARS AND SOME YEARS YOU DON'T. >> GOT YOU. >> SOME YEARS IT'S PREDICTABLE. THIS IS REALLY JUST A BREAKDOWN OF THAT SLIDE THAT DR. LAWSON SHARED. THE NEXT FEW PAGES ARE REALLY JUST THE OVERALL SUMMARY. IT'S A SUMMARY OF THE OPERATING BUDGET EXPENSES BY CATEGORY AND OBJECT. WHERE WE WERE REALLY GOING TO GET INTO THE DETAIL WAS STARTING ON PAGE 27 BECAUSE THE BEGINNING IS REALLY JUST THE SUMMARY OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN BEFORE. THIS REALLY TAKES US IN ON PAGE 27 STARTING HERE WITH THE BOARD. THIS COINCIDES WITH THE FIRST SLIDE THAT WE [00:15:01] SHOWED YOU WHERE IT HAS THE BOARD INFORMATION. I JUST WANT TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THIS REPORT IS SET UP SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND IT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT BECAUSE IT COMES FROM A PIVOT TABLE. SOMETIMES IT CAN LOOK A LITTLE CONFUSING. THIS DARK BLUE LINE HERE, THIS IS OUR DEPARTMENT OR WE CALL IT A ROLL UP CODE. HAS A NUMBER, IT HAS A NAME, AND HERE IS WHERE YOU'LL SEE THE TOTAL. EVERYTHING BELOW IS TOTALING UP. INSTEAD OF TOTALING DOWN, IT'S TOTALING UP. THIS BLUE LINE IS THE TOTAL FOR THE ROLL UP CODE OR DEPARTMENT. YOU CAN SEE YOUR FY '24 ACTUAL NUMBER, YOUR FY '25 APPROVED BUDGET, FY '26 REQUESTED BUDGET, IF THERE'S REQUESTED BUDGET DETAIL, AND THEN WHAT THE CHANGE IS, THE INCREASE OR THE DECREASE FROM '25 TO '26. FOR SOME ITEMS, YOU WON'T SEE REQUESTED DETAIL BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THINGS WHERE WE'RE NOT REQUIRED. WE DON'T REQUIRE DEPARTMENTS TO ENTER DETAILS. FOR EXAMPLE, SUPPLIES, THEY COULD ENTER AN AMOUNT FOR SUPPLIES WITHOUT DETAILING SUPPLIES, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CLASSROOM SUPPLIES FOR SCHOOLS. THE LIST OF SUPPLIES IS ENDLESS. THAT'S HOW THIS IS SET UP. IT'S ALSO SET UP THAT THESE LIGHTER BLUE LINES ARE THE STATE CATEGORIES. THEN UNDERNEATH EACH STATE CATEGORY, THESE FOUR DIGITS ARE THE OBJECTS. THESE ARE THE PART OF OUR ACCOUNT THAT SAY, WHAT ARE YOU PURCHASING? ARE YOU PAYING FOR STIPENDS? ARE YOU PAYING FOR CONTRACTED SERVICES? ARE YOU PAYING FOR SUPPLIES, MEMBERSHIPS? WHAT WE DID WAS WE TOOK OUT THE ACTUAL ACCOUNT NUMBERS TO MAKE IT NOT SO BUSY AND DISTRACTING, SO YOU COULD FOCUS ON THE CONTENT. WE ALSO COLLAPSE TOGETHER. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE GET DOWN FURTHER, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT INSTRUCTION OR WE'RE LOOKING AT UTILITIES AND THERE'S AN ELECTRICITY ACCOUNT FOR EVERY LOCATION, WE COLLAPSE A LOCATION, SO YOU COULD SEE THE TOTAL. INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT 29 IN SEPARATE LINES, YOU COULD SEE THE TOTAL FOR ONE ITEM. WHEN YOU RECEIVE YOUR FINAL BUDGET BOOK, AS WE DID LAST YEAR, THERE WILL BE A REPORT IN THE BACK THAT ACTUALLY GOES ACCOUNT BY ACCOUNT, SO YOU COULD SEE THAT. BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF TALKING TODAY, WE THOUGHT IT'D BE EASIER FOR YOU TO SEE IN TOTAL FOR THAT OBJECT. EVERY ROLL UP CODE OR DEPARTMENT IS SET UP THIS WAY, WHERE YOU SEE THE TOTAL ACROSS THE TOP, AND THEN IT BREAKS DOWN THE STATE CATEGORIES AND THEN THE OBJECTS BY STATE CATEGORIES. ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE START? >> GOOD MORNING. I GET TO OPEN WITH THE DEPARTMENT BOARD OF EDUCATION, ACCOUNT 10,000 UNDER ADMINISTRATION, AND THEN I'M GOING TO JUMP RIGHT IN. OBJECT 0100 BOARD MEMBER STIPEND. THIS IS THE COMPLETION OF THE ROLL-IN FROM THE LEGISLATION THAT CHANGED THAT INCREASED THE BOARD MEMBER STIPENDS. OVER THE LAST TWO ELECTION CYCLES, THOSE NUMBERS HAVE INCREASED. THAT TAKES FULL EFFECT THIS NEXT YEAR, YOU'LL SEE A SLIGHT INCREASE THERE. THE NEXT LINE OF AUDITING, 0201 OBJECT. THIS NOW INCLUDES OUR SCHOOL AUDITS, SO YOU WILL SEE AN INCREASE THERE OF $19,600. THAT'S A RATE INCREASE AS WELL AS INCLUSIVE OF OUR SCHOOLS. NEXT ONE I'D LIKE TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO IS OUR LEGAL FEES 0203, A BIG JUMP HERE OF $105,000 FOR OUR ATTORNEY FEES. >> CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON THAT? IS THAT FOR BOTH THE BOARD ATTORNEY AND THE SUPERINTENDENT ATTORNEY? >> I BELIEVE THAT IS ACCURATE. FOR THERE I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE LEGAL FEES UNDER THE SUPERINTENDENT, SO YES. THAT WOULD BE ANY LEGAL FEES THAT ARE ACCRUED THROUGH THE DISTRICT THAT WOULD COME OUT OF THAT ACCOUNT. >> WE'VE ALREADY EXCEEDED OUR BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR AGAIN. >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> CORRECT. BASED ON BUDGET REPORT FROM LAST MONTH, I THINK. WE DID GET A QUESTION. THERE WERE QUESTIONS WE GET EMAILS FROM THE PUBLIC, AND ONE OF THE QUESTION WAS, WHY IS THE LEGAL FEES INCREASING SO MUCH? AND I BELIEVE THAT IS ATTRIBUTED TO THE HEARING WE HAD. >> CORRECT. >> IT TENDS TO VACATE YEAR TO YEAR, DEPENDING ON THE INTENSITY OF VARIOUS LEGAL CASES COMING, WHETHER IT'S FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT COMING FROM THE BOARD, OR OFTENTIMES COMING FROM SPECIAL EDUCATION. USUALLY, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THREE. PASSING KATZ REPRESENTS MYSELF AS THE SUPERINTENDENT, HANDLES THE BULK OF THE WORK FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION, AND CHARLIE SCOTT IS THE BOARD'S ATTORNEY. SOME YEARS WERE WELL AHEAD, SOME YEARS WERE NOT. >> IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE ANYTHING THAT WOULD COME OUT OF HUMAN RESOURCES EMPLOYEES [OVERLAPPING] WOULD ALSO COME OUT OF THAT. >> ARE WE ALSO EXPECTING MORE NEXT YEAR BECAUSE OF ALL THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS THAT WE'RE RECEIVING AND THE ADVICE WILL BE NEEDING FOR THAT? >> NOT NECESSARILY. WE BASE THE BUDGET ON WHAT OUR CURRENT EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN AND WHAT WE ANTICIPATE TO ROLL INTO THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR. [00:20:01] OUR BUDGET HAS BEEN DECREASING OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. WE'VE DONE A NICE JOB, I BELIEVE, OF MANAGING AND WORKING WITH OUR LAWYERS AND WORKING WITH MAYE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN ALIGNMENT WITH ANY CHANGES IN LEGISLATION AND SUCH. BUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THAT POTENTIALLY COULD, BUT EITHER THROUGH THE MAYE ORGANIZATION OR THROUGH THE MNS MERIN NEGOTIATING SERVICE ORGANIZATION THERE ARE LAW FIRMS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OF THOSE TO PROVIDE US WITH INPUT AND FEEDBACK AS WE GO FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN ALIGNMENT WITH ANY CHANGE OF EXECUTIVE ORDER OR LEGISLATION AS IT MAY COME OUT. WE WOULD HOPE THAT BETWEEN THOSE TWO ORGANIZATIONS, THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO COVER MOST OF THOSE EXPENSES. BUT INDEPENDENT OF THAT, ANYTHING THAT WE INCUR OURSELVES, YES, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE. >> I ALSO THINK THIS IS THAT WE GET SUPPORT FROM WHETHER IT'S PAZAN OR MAYE, AND WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF FRONT END SUPPORT TO PRECLUDE LITIGATION. IT'S SOMETHING, HONESTLY, I THINK WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB IN THE LAST FIVE, 10 YEARS IS MINIMIZING. MANY SYSTEMS HAVE ON STAFF COUNSEL. HARFORD COUNTY HAS TWO FULL TIME ATTORNEYS AND THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT CLOSER TO $400,000 JUST FOR THEIR SALARIES AND FIXED CHARGES, AND THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL AROUND THE STATE. OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR WORKFORCE, OUR RELATIONSHIPS, THE PERFORMANCE COMING OUT OF SPECIAL EDUCATION. WE DO A REALLY NICE JOB OF MITIGATING LEGAL COSTS. THIS YEAR IS A BIT OF AN OUTLIER, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. >> THE NEXT AREA, WE WOULD LIKE TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO OBJECT 0208 CONTRACTED SERVICES. YOU'LL SEE AN INCREASE. YOU'LL SEE BOLTON RETIREMENT THERE AND THAT'S THEIR FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO COME IN AND AUDIT OUR RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS. THEN YOU HAVE BOARD DOCS, AND THAT OPERATES AS OUR GOVERNANCE MECHANISM FOR OUR BOARD MEETINGS AND SUCH, AS WELL AS ALL OUR POLICIES AND REGULATIONS, AND THEN MISCELLANEOUS BOARD FEES. JUMPING DOWN TO 0505 MEMBERSHIP, YOU SEE A SLIGHT DECREASE HERE OF $3,200 IN THE COMBINATION OF ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT THE BOARD ARE MEMBERSHIP ARE PARTICIPATING MEMBERS OF. ANY QUESTIONS UNDER THAT DEPARTMENT, THAT CATEGORY? NEXT, I'D LIKE TO JUMP INTO LINE 20,000, SUPERINTENDENT. AGAIN, UNDER CATEGORY 01, OBJECT 0060 NEGOTIATORS. NEXT YEAR, WE WILL HAVE THREE OPEN CONTRACTS THAT WE WILL BE NEGOTIATING, YOU WILL SEE A LINE ITEM BUDGETED FOR THAT. THE REST OF. >> DR. BUCKLEY, CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT BOARD. THE THREE GROUPS ARE WHO? >> YES. OUR CECIL COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS ADMINISTRATOR ASSOCIATION, OUR COSTA CENTRAL OFFICE SUPPORT SUPERVISORY SUPPORT LEADERSHIP ASSOCIATION, AND SSPA, OUR SUPPORT SERVICES ORGANIZATION. ALL THREE OF THOSE WILL HAVE OPEN CONTRACTS NEXT YEAR. WE WILL BE ENTERING INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH THOSE THREE ORGANIZATIONS. OUR CLASSROOM TEACHER ASSOCIATION, WE SUCCESSFULLY NEGOTIATED A TWO YEAR CONTRACT THIS YEAR, YEAR 1 WILL BE NEXT YEAR. WE'LL BE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THEM UNTIL THE FOLLOWING YEAR. I THINK THAT'S THE FALL OF 26. THE OTHER ITEMS THERE ARE RELATIVELY FLAT THAT YOU WILL SEE COMING THROUGH THE SUPERINTENDENT DEPARTMENT. ANY QUESTIONS? >> ONE QUESTION. THIS IS A MINUTE QUESTION, BUT THE SENSITIVE ITEMS, IS THAT THE STAFF COMPUTERS. THERE'S NO BUDGET FOR THAT. I KNOW WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS THAT THERE'S I KNOW WITH LEADERSHIP TEAM, YOUR COMPUTERS AREN'T WORKING. >> CORRECT. THAT WOULD BE FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT. IF THE SUPERINTENDENT WERE RECEIVING A NEW LAPTOP NEXT YEAR, THAT WOULD BE INDICATED THERE. HIS WAS ACTUAL OF 24. THAT'S WHY. THEN THE OTHER LEADERSHIP TEAM MEMBERS AND SUCH WILL BE REFLECTED ELSEWHERE. >> NOT IN THE SUPERINTENDENT'S ONE. >> IF THEY BEHAVE. [LAUGHTER] >> MOVING INTO THE DIVISION OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 27. A COUPLE OF ITEMS JUST BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO IN OUR CONTRACTED SERVICES THERE, GRAPHIC DESIGN. THAT'S REALLY BEEN TO HELP US BRAND CCPS WITH OUR LOGO AND OUR COLOR GRAPHICS. THAT'S BEEN AN EXPENSE THAT WE'LL BE ROLLING FORWARD WITH. IT'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS ASSET TO, I THINK THE OVERALL SYSTEM. IF WE GO DOWN INTO MEMBERSHIPS, AGAIN, JUST DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO 0505 MEMBERSHIPS HOOT SUITE. THAT IS A SOFTWARE PACKAGE THAT'S COMING OVER FROM THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE. WHAT THAT ALLOWS US TO DO IS THAT ALLOWS US TO PUSH OUT A MESSAGE IN ONE PLATFORM, AND THEN IT WILL DISPERSE INTO OUR MULTIPLE PLATFORMS. WE CAN PUSH IT OUT. IT WILL THEN HIT INSTAGRAM, IT WILL HIT FACEBOOK, IT WILL HIT ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT MESSAGING SERVICES WITH ONE PUSH. THAT'S REALLY A TIME SAVER. IT'S A FACTOR OF ECONOMY FOR US THAT WE'RE UTILIZING THERE. IN PUBLICATION SUBSCRIPTIONS, 0506 JUST BELOW THAT PUNCH BOWL. [00:25:05] THAT'S WHERE ALL OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS ARE ABLE TO DROP INTO AND ACCESS AND ADVERTISE WITH US AS WELL AS US PUSH OUT INVITATIONS AND SUCH. THE TOP OF PAGE 28, YOU WILL SEE IN THE UNDER THE OPERATION OF PLANT, THERE IS AN INTERACTIVE MEDIA GA, THAT'S A NEW LINE ITEM FOR US AND THAT'S TO THE $13,500, AND THAT'S OUR STUDENT INTERN THAT'S SUPPORTING OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE. THE NEXT AREA BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO IS, AGAIN, DEPARTMENT 30,100 HUMAN RESOURCES AND BENEFITS. DROP DOWN TO OBJECT 0208 CONTRACTED SERVICES. THE ACA REPORTING THAT YOU SEE THERE IS THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. WE ARE COMPELLED TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE ABOUT THEIR BENEFIT CARE. WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT. THE APPLICANT TRACKING THAT YOU SEE THERE IS OUR FRONTLINE APPLICANT TRACKING. YOU WILL SEE THAT ALSO REPRESENTED IN OUR ABSENCE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE. WE SPLIT THOSE TWO UP IN THERE. AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT, THE TIME TO CARE ACT. UNDER CONTRACTED SERVICES, $12,500. THAT IS MONEY SET ASIDE. WE ARE COMPELLED TO START CONTRIBUTING TO THAT. IT WAS LEGISLATION THAT PASSED, I BELIEVE IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO, AND SO IT WILL BE COMING ON BOARD OR ONLINE WITH THE STATE OF MARYLAND. THEY KEEP KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE LINE A LITTLE BIT THERE. WE'LL WAIT TO SEE WHAT THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION BRINGS. BUT THAT'S TO SUPPORT OUR EMPLOYEES AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THE REST OF THOSE OBJECTS ARE RELATIVELY FLAT AND OR DECREASING, BUT IT SPEAKS TO AGAIN, MEMBERSHIPS WITH HUMAN RESOURCES, RETIREMENT GIFTS, AND SO FORTH. ANY QUESTIONS WITH HUMAN RESOURCES AND BENEFITS? NOW WE JUMP INTO INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE FOLKS BEHIND US AS DR. LAWSON SAID ARE HERE AS A SUPPORT. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE KNOW IN HERE, BUT THERE ARE A LOT MORE THINGS THAT THEY KNOW IN HERE AS WELL. THEY'RE HERE TO SUPPORT US AS I JUMP INTO INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, MR. WILLS I'LL PUT MR. WILLS ON POINT AND HE'S HERE TO SUPPORT US THROUGH THAT. BUT AGAIN, UNDER THE DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, YOU WILL SEE HERE WE HAVE OVERTIME. AGAIN, I DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT BECAUSE OUR SOFTWARE, OUR SYSTEMS BREAK DOWN AT ODD HOURS, WHETHER THAT'S AT THE END OF THE DAY, OVER THE WEEKEND AND THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THEY'RE UP AND OPERATIONAL DURING THE DUTY DAY AND SCHOOL DAY FOR OUR TEACHERS AND STAFF. WE HAVE A NEED AT TIMES TO HAVE OUR PERSONNEL GO OUT ON SITE AT NIGHT AND OR OVER THE WEEKEND TO FIX ISSUES AND PROBLEMS. AS WE JUMP INTO CONTRACTED SERVICES, A BIG TICKET THERE, THE DEL SERVER WARRANTY AND SUPPORT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE. IT'S THERE TO SUPPORT OUR PHYSICAL SERVERS AND THE WARRANTY AND THE SUPPORT FOR THOSE. THE NEXT ITEM, THE IT PRO TD ONLINE TRAINING SUPPORTS OUR ONLINE TRAINING PORTAL FOR ALL STAFF. THE INVIEW CAMERA APPLIANCE SUPPORT AT $9,000. THAT'S SO THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS ACCESS TO OUR CAMERAS SHOULD THEY NEED IT. THAT'S A SOFTWARE PACKAGE THAT ALLOWS FOR THAT. AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT CONTRACTED SERVICES AREA IN SECURITY CONSULTING, YOU WILL SEE $50,000. IT'S A SET-ASIDE, IT'S A PLACEHOLDER. AGAIN, AS WE WORK TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FINDINGS OF THE LEGISLATIVE AUDIT, YOU'LL SEE SEVERAL THINGS THAT ARE DROPPED IN THROUGHOUT THIS BUDGET TO REFLECT OUR EFFORT TO BE MORE SECURE AND BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT THE FINDINGS OF THE LEGISLATIVE AUDIT WERE. THIS IS SECURITY CONSULTING, WE HOPE NOT TO USE IT AS DO ALL ORGANIZATIONS, BUT IT'S THERE AS A SET ASIDE, AGAIN, IF WE NEED TO. AS WE GO DOWN INTO OBJECT 0267 SOFTWARE LICENSE. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A WHOLE LOT OF ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE LISTED HERE, AND I'LL DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO SEVERAL OF THEM AS WE GO THROUGH. THE FRONTLINE ABSENT MANAGEMENT AT $46,000. THAT'S THE OTHER HALF OF OUR FRONTLINE RECRUITMENT SUITE. FRONTLINE HOLDS BOTH OUR ABSENT MANAGEMENT AS WELL AS OUR RECRUITMENT. NEXT TO THE MANAGE ENGINE PASSWORD. AGAIN, THIS IS AS PART OF OUR ONGOING SECURITY FOR OUR NETWORK AND FOR OUR SYSTEM. WE REQUIRE OUR EMPLOYEES TO RESET THEIR PASSWORDS MULTIPLE TIMES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THIS MANAGE ENGINE ALLOWS US TO MANAGE THAT PROCESS EFFECTIVELY. THE METASOURCE WEB EXTENDER BASICALLY ALLOWS US TO ARCHIVE OUR RECORDS AND FILES. YOU'LL THEN JUMP INTO THE POWER SCHOOL. ADVANCED REPORTING, ANNUAL SUPPORT, SIS ENROLLMENT, SIS HOSTED SERVICE. THAT'S OUR POWER SCHOOL SUITE. THAT ALLOWS FOR ALL THE FUNCTIONALITY FOR OUR SCHOOLS TO ENROLL, FOR OUR SCHOOLS TO TRACK AND MONITOR ALL THE DEMOGRAPHIC DATA OF ALL OF OUR STUDENTS. ALL THAT INFORMATION IS HOUSED THERE. WE SUPPORT THAT CENTRALLY FROM HERE AT CENTRAL OFFICE. [00:30:04] THE NEXT IS THE SWAGGE ANNUAL LICENSE, AND THAT'S THE BOARDROOM. YOU SEE THE CAMERAS OUTFIT IT HERE. INTERESTINGLY, THIS FIXED CANARIES. I WOULD DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO IT. I KNOW IT'S A SMALL ITEM, BUT BASICALLY WHAT THIS IS IS THEY'RE REFERRED TO AS HONEYPOTS THAT ARE BURIED WITHIN OUR NETWORK, SO THAT IF SOMEONE DOES GET INTO OUR NETWORK, IT WOULD DRAW THEIR ATTENTION TO THEM AND AWAY FROM SENSITIVE DATA, AND IT WOULD GIVE US AN ALERT THAT SOMEONE IS INSIDE OF OUR SYSTEM TRYING TO TRACK. THIS IS AGAIN, ANOTHER SAFEGUARD, RELATIVELY CHEAP SAFEGUARD, BUT IT'S A SAFEGUARD THAT'S EMBEDDED WITHIN THERE. >> DR. BUCKLEY KIND TO INTERRUPT YOU. JUST FOR THE BOARD'S CLARIFICATION. A LOT OF TIMES THESE THINGS FLY UNDER THE RADAR IN TERMS OF JUST THEIR SHEER EXISTENCE, AND WE'VE BEEN CITED, MAYBE NOT THE GREATEST WORD IN THE WORLD BY THE LEGISLATIVE AUDIT THE LAST COUPLE OF TIMES ABOUT POTENTIAL DATA VULNERABILITIES. SOME OF THIS REFLECTS OUR EFFORT TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF THIS. A COUPLE OF HIGH PROFILE DATA PIRACY ISSUES HAVE HAPPENED IN THE STATE IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, AND IT CAN REALLY BRING A SYSTEM TO ITS KNEES. THESE THINGS YOU DON'T TYPICALLY THINK OF WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FUNDING PUBLIC EDUCATION. WE ALL THINK ABOUT READING, WRITING ARITHMETIC, AND KIDS. BUT THIS STUFF IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT'S MATURED, I WOULD SAY, OVER THE LAST GENERATION TO BE A SERIOUS LINE ITEM AS IT RELATES TO COST. >> IS THIS SOMETHING NEW THAT WE'VE DONE OR IS THIS SOMETHING WE'VE HAD FOR A LONG TIME? >> SOMETHING NEW. >> THIS IS NEW. >> THEN AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 28 IS OUR TYLER MUNIS ANNUAL SERVICE AND SUPPORT. AGAIN, THAT SUPPORTS OUR HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE AS WELL AS OUR BUSINESS SERVICES OFFICES AND ALL THE WORK THAT THEY DO. ONTO PAGE 29, CONTINUING WITH THAT SAME OBJECT OF SOFTWARE LICENSE. JUST A COUPLE OF BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE WEBSITE AT 83,000 THERE, THE WEBSITE MASS COMMUNICATION PLATFORMS THAT HOST OUR WEBSITE. THEN THE Z SCALER, AGAIN, THAT IS A NEW SOFTWARE FOR US TO HAVE VPN AND ACCESS. THAT ALLOWS FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO ACCESS OUR SENSITIVE DATABASES OUTSIDE OF OUR NETWORK. THAT'S AGAIN A SECURE METHOD TO DO THAT. MOVING DOWN AGAIN, THE POWER SCHOOL UNIVERSITY TRAINING. OUR FOLKS ANNUALLY AND CONTINUALLY GO TO BE TRAINED ON ANY ADVANCEMENTS THAT EXIST WITH POWER SCHOOL UNIVERSITY. JUMPING DOWN INTO CATEGORY INSTRUCTION LEAD SUPPORT 02. JUST DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE BOTTOM ONE THERE, THE VOIP PHONE SERVICE. THAT'S THE VOICE OVER INTERNET PROTOCOL. WE ARE UTILIZING A NEW PROVIDER FOR THAT. AGAIN, JUST A REMINDER, THE ONE ABOVE THAT POTS LINES, THAT'S PLANO TELEPHONE SYSTEM, AND WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE THOSE IN PLACE FOR OUR ARMS, OUR ELEVATORS, OUR FAX MACHINES, AND SUCH. YES. >> GOOD QUESTION. MOVING BACKWARDS A SECOND POWER SCHOOL TRAINING. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COMES UP EVERY SO OFTEN LIKE EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS WE DO IT OR IT'S NOT ANNUAL, IT LOOKS LIKE, BUT IS IT LIKE? >> WE DO LIKE TO HAVE PLACEHOLDER MONEY IN THERE FOR AT LEAST ONE OR TWO OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS TO GO EVERY YEAR. THEY ALWAYS COME BACK WITH SOMETHING NEW THAT THE FEATURES THAT THEY'RE ADDING, THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE DIFFERENTLY. WE DON'T ALWAYS BUDGET THE SAME AMOUNT, BUT WE ALWAYS TRY TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE TO SEND PEOPLE AWAY. >> WHERE WE'VE NOT HAD IT IS THAT JUST BECAUSE WE HAD TO CUT IT BECAUSE OF THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. THIS IS ONE OF THAT HAS FALLEN OFF WHEN NEEDED. >> YES. THAT'S REALLY SIMILAR TO THE QUESTION. I JUST ASKED MISS SOPA ON A SIDEBAR. SOME OF THESE THINGS YOU'RE SEEING PRIOR YEAR EXPENDITURES AND SOME OF YOU AREN'T. UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE BEEN IN THIS PICKLE SPENDING WISE NOW FOR THE BETTER PART OF FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. WE REALLY ARE PIECEMEALING AND TRYING TO BRING BACK CERTAIN THINGS. I THINK A LOT OF THE DATA, TECHNOLOGY PIECE IS PROBABLY THE BEST EXAMPLE BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO CUT. IF THE SYSTEM NEEDS 3,000 CHROMEBOOKS, WE WOULD TURN AROUND AND BUY 2,000. IF THE SYSTEM NEEDED 5,500 CHROMEBOOKS, AND THESE THINGS AGE OUT. I THINK YOU'RE SEEING THAT PATTERN THROUGHOUT. >> THE NEXT LINE, INSTRUCTION SALARIES AND WAGES UNDER 0084. THE TEST OPEN AND WEBMASTER SUPPORT DAYS, THAT'S THERE FOR OUR TEACHERS SO THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO SUPPORT THEIR COLLEAGUES. WE HAVE A TEST REPRESENTATIVE IN EACH ONE OF OUR BUILDINGS AND THAT SUBSTITUTE DAYS SO THAT WHEN THEY START THE SCHOOL YEAR AND IN THE SCHOOL YEAR, THEY'RE ABLE TO GO IN AND SUPPORT OUR TEACHERS IN SETTING UP AND ANY CHANGES THAT MAY HAPPEN, UPDATES TO THEIR COMPUTERS, ANY SMART BOARD TECHNOLOGY, ANYTHING, WE HAVE A RESIDENT EXPERT IN THE BUILDING. THOSE DAYS ARE THERE FOR THEM. AS WE MOVE INTO CATEGORY 04, INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS, WHILE YOU SEE THAT THIS IS A $513,000 INCREASE, THIS IS A MILLION DOLLAR CUT FROM THEIR ORIGINAL REQUEST, AND IT'S STILL UP $513,000. THEIR ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS 1.5 MILLION ABOVE LAST YEAR, AND WE'VE ASKED THEM TO SHARPEN THEIR PENCIL. IF YOU LOOK DOWN INTO THE SENSITIVE ITEMS TRACKABLE THERE, [00:35:04] THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL START TO SEE, AGAIN, BIG NUMBERS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CLASSROOM ELECTRONIC WHITEBOARDS, $120,000. WELL, THAT'S GOING TO TOUCH ABOUT 80 WHITEBOARDS. EACH OF THOSE ITEMS THAT YOU SEE GOING DOWN THROUGH THERE, AGAIN, NEAR THE BOTTOM, THE STUDENT CHROMEBOOK REFRESH, AT 891,000, IT'S ABOUT 3,000 MACHINES, 03,000 NEW DEVICES THAT WILL BE [OVERLAPPING] >> SENSITIVE TRACKABLE ITEMS ARE ALWAYS DEVICES OF SOME KIND, WHEREVER YOU SEE THAT. >> DR. BUCKLEY, REAL FAST. IS THAT ENOUGH IN TERMS OF REFRESHING DEVICES AND ENSURING THAT IF WE HAD TO GO VIRTUAL THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH DEVICES THAT STUDENTS WHO NEED THEM [OVERLAPPING] >> I DEFER THAT QUESTION TO MR. WILLS. MR. WILLS. >> WE HAVE ENOUGH DEVICES IF WE NEEDED TO GO VIRTUAL AGAIN. WE COULD DO THAT. THAT'S NOT THE BIG ISSUE. THE BIG ISSUE IS ALWAYS THE USEFUL LIFE OF THE EQUIPMENT. WE'RE SITTING ON APPROXIMATELY $11 MILLION WORTH OF THINGS THAT YOU WOULD SEE IN CLASSROOMS. THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO EXPLAIN IT. ANOTHER NINE OR 10 MILLION WORTH OF STUFF THAT YOU WOULD NOT SEE THAT'S ALSO CRITICAL TO DELIVERING SERVICES TO CLASSROOMS. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY, YES, WE COULD DO IT. IS IT ENOUGH? NO, IT'S NOT. >> BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE 3,000 DEVICES IN A REFRESH, IT'S A TIP OF THE ICEBERG, REALLY. IDEALLY, HOW MANY WOULD WE REFRESH? >> I TRADITIONALLY ASKED FOR $2.1-2.3 MILLION A YEAR JUST TO REPLACE WHAT WE HAVE. >> THIS IS REALLY A LOW LOW NUMBER? >> I THINK IT ALSO BEARS MENTIONING THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT REFRESHING, IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE PREFER NEWER MACHINES. IT'S BECAUSE THE SOFTWARE PATCHES STOP AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME. SO WHILE YOUR CHROMEBOOK MAY LAST SEVEN YEARS, THE SOFTWARE PATCHES COULD STOP AFTER FIVE, MEANING THOSE LAST TWO YEARS, YOU'RE NOT GETTING YOUR UPGRADES, AND IT JUST HOBBLES THE MACHINE. >> RIGHT. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S HAPPENING. >> DR. HAMMER'S COMPUTER IS PROBABLY A GOOD EXAMPLE. [LAUGHTER] >> ALL OF THE COMPUTERS, I FEEL LIKE, ARE TO THAT POINT. >> BUT THEY LOSE FUNCTIONALITY. MS. SARPER, WE JUST EXPERIENCED THAT. SHE WAS WORKING THROUGH THE BUDGET. SHE HAD AN OLDER MACHINE AND IT WAS UNABLE TO REFRESH THE SPREADSHEET SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE SIZE AND THE MAGNITUDE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. SHE WAS FORTUNATE THAT SHE WAS IN LINE TO GET A NEW ONE. SHE HAS NO ISSUE WITH THAT NOW. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. IT JUST SLOWS THE ABILITY FOR OUR FOLKS TO WORK, INCLUDING OUR STUDENTS TO [OVERLAPPING] >> THE PRODUCTIVITY HAS DECREASED SIGNIFICANTLY. >> THAT'S THE GREAT POINT BECAUSE I SAW AN ARTICLE RECENTLY STARTING A QUESTION, I WOULD SAY THE VALUE OF HAVING TECHNOLOGY IN CLASSROOMS AS IT RELATES TO STUDENT LEARNING. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION PEOPLE COULD HAVE. THAT SAID, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY QUESTION IN HOW THE VALUE OF TECHNOLOGY SUPPORTS THE FUNCTION OF A SYSTEM WITH 2,000 EMPLOYEES, 15,000 STUDENTS TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH 10,000 FAMILIES KINDS OF THINGS. I THINK THAT WE'RE BEYOND THAT NOW, SO IT'S CRITICAL THAT OUR FOLKS HAVE SOME LEVEL OF HIGH DEGREE OF FUNCTION FOR SYSTEM OPERATION. >> CAN I ASK TWO QUESTIONS? ONE IS HOW MANY CHROMEBOOKS FOR STUDENTS DO WE HAVE, IF YOU KNOW THAT ANSWER? THEN TWO, WHEN WE NEED TO GET NEW COMPUTERS, DO WE GET A CREDIT OR ANYTHING FOR THE OLD ONES? DO WE TURN THEM BACK IN? I KNOW WHEN I GO GET MY NEW PHONE, I GET A CREDIT. >> NUMBER OF STUDENTS IS ROUGHLY 14,500, IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT CLOSE ENOUGH? THEN DO WE GET A CREDIT? YES. WHEN WE BUY NEW EQUIPMENT, WE WRAP THE COLLECTION SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DOUBLE TOUCH 3,000 DEVICES. WE WRAP THE COLLECTION AND REFURBISH AND DATA DESTRUCTION SERVICES AS PART OF THE OVERALL CONTRACT, AND WE TYPICALLY DO GET A SMALL AMOUNT BACK. IT'S NOT MUCH. THE DATA DESTRUCTION PIECE IS MORE IMPORTANT TO ME THAN THE RESIDUAL VALUE OF ANY EQUIPMENT WE TURN OVER. >> BUCKLEY CONTINUES. >> I WILL CONTINUE, WE'LL GO INTO THE NEXT CATEGORY 05, INSTRUCTION, OTHER COST. THE FIRST OBJECT THERE, 0208, YOU WILL SEE OUR FLORIDA VIRTUAL ONLINE AND WHAT THAT DOES. THAT SUPPORTS OUR BVP, OUR VIRTUAL PROGRAM, AS WELL AS OUR HOME SCHOOL STUDENTS. UNDERNEATH THAT OBJECT, SOFTWARE LICENSE 0267. JUST TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION THERE, OUR MICROSOFT AGREEMENT. THAT IS THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH MICROSOFT. IT'S $169,000, BUT THAT ALLOWS FOR ALL OF OUR DEVICES TO UTILIZE THE MICROSOFT PLATFORM AND THE MICROSOFT SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE. [00:40:02] THE MICROSOFT AZURE IS A CLOUD COMPUTING PLATFORM THAT WE UTILIZE AS WELL. WITH THAT, PERFORMANCE MATTERS THAT ALLOWS FOR ALL OF OUR TEACHERS AND OUR STAFF TO WORK AS WELL AS LEADERSHIP, TO WORK TO MONITOR AND TRACK STUDENT PROGRESS AND ALL OF THEIR REPORTS, AND ALL OF THEIR ACADEMIC TEST AND ASSESSMENTS AND WHATNOT ARE PUT INTO THAT SYSTEM. IT ALLOWS US TO DO AN ANALYSIS OF THEIR PERFORMANCE WITH THAT. THE LEARNING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, SCHOOLOGY, DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, 72,000. A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT THEN MOVING ON TO THE TOP OF PAGE 30. THE WORK SPACE FOR EDUCATION NEAR THE BOTTOM OF THAT OBJECT. THAT WAS OUR GOOGLE UPGRADE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE HAVING IS WE WERE STARTING TO GET PEPPERED WITH EMAILS AND SOLICITATIONS FROM OUTSIDE OF THE CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES. IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, WE CAME TO THE BOARD AND WE ASKED FOR THAT UPGRADE, SO IT'S A SECURITY TOOL FOR US AND IT WILL LIMIT ACCESS OUTSIDE OF THE CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES. THAT'S A $45,000 PRICE TAG. MOVE IT INTO OBJECT 06, SPECIAL EDUCATION. AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE HERE, THESE ARE JUST REFRESH OF MACHINES. AS WE MOVE INTO THE OPERATION OF PLANT, THE FIRST LINE ITEM THERE IS THE TECHNOLOGY GA UNDER 0051 AND THEN CONTRACTED SERVICES. JUST THE ARMSTRONG, REMEMBER THAT'S THE RISING SUN AREA THAT HAS A SEPARATE TELEPHONE PROVIDER AND THEN COMCAST THE REST OF THE COUNTY. WHAT I WOULD DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO IS THE DOIT FIBER AND ISP SERVICE OF $335,000. >> DR. BUCKLEY, EXPLAIN WHAT DOIT STANDS FOR, PLEASE. >> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD IT RIGHT. DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATIONAL TECHNOLOGY, BUT BASICALLY WHAT THAT ALLOWED US TO DO IS DOUBLE OUR BANDWIDTH. SO WE WERE RUNNING INTO CONGESTION, IF YOU WILL, WHEN STUDENTS WERE DOING ASSESSMENTS AND A LOT OF ONLINE USE WAS OCCURRING, WE WERE GETTING CONGESTED. THIS BASICALLY DOUBLED OUR BANDWIDTH AND OPENED IT UP FOR US TO HAVE GREATER ACCESS BACK AND FORTH. THEN AT 0506 UNDER THE TELEPHONE LINES, AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE THE VOICE OVER INTERNET PROTOCOL PHONE SERVICE THERE, THE VOIP. >> SORRY, DR. BUCKLEY, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE CELL PHONE SUBSCRIPTION? WHO HAS CELL PHONES? >> CELL PHONES WOULD BE OUR STUDENT SERVICES, PEOPLE PERSONNEL. OPERATIONAL PLANT WOULD ALSO BE OUR MAINTENANCE PERSONNEL. WHEN THEY'RE OUT CONDUCTING DOING WORK ORDERS, WHEN THEY'RE OUT DOING SNOWPLOW, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM AND UTILIZE THAT, SO THAT'S REFLECTED THERE IN THE TELEPHONE CELL PHONE SERVICE. THAT IS NOT FOR OUR ADMINISTRATORS, THAT IS NOT FOR LEADERSHIP. THAT IS STRICTLY FOR THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF OUR OPERATIONS PLAN FACILITIES. >> I'M ASSUMING IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE FOR US TO DO THAT THAN GIVE THEM A STIPEND FOR THEIR OWN? >> YES. >> GOOD MORNING. MOVING IN, I HAVE ASSESSMENT AND ACCOUNTABILITY THAT LIVES IN THE DIVISION OF EDUCATION SERVICES, AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE, THAT IS WHERE OUR COLLEGE BOARD, OUR SAT AND PSAT COSTS ARE HOUSED. NWEA IS A SCREENER THAT WE USE FOR OUR STUDENTS TO ASSESS THEIR STRENGTHS IN READING AND MATH TWO TIMES A YEAR, AND THAT'S GRADES 1-8. >> IT'S ALSO REFERRED TO AS MAP TESTING. >> YOU ALSO SEE WE DO NEED TO PAY A SMALL AMOUNT FOR POWERSCHOOL TO DO AN END-OF-COURSE CONVERSION COST. END-OF-COURSE ASSESSMENTS ARE REQUIRED BY THE STATE OF MARYLAND THAT GO INTO STUDENTS GRADES, AND SO THERE'S A CONVERSION TOOL THAT WE USE THROUGH POWERSCHOOL TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. THE FINAL THING IS OUR ASSESSMENT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COORDINATOR ATTENDS THE MARYLAND ASSESSMENT CONFERENCE, AND THOSE ARE FEES FOR THAT. >> AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 30, DEPARTMENT, SAFE SCHOOLS, 30,400. UNDER OBJECT 0208, CONTRACTED SERVICES. SEVERAL DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE USE THERE ARE BARK TECHNOLOGIES THAT'S USED TO ALERT US TO INAPPROPRIATE WRITINGS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. IT SUPPORTS OUR MENTAL HEALTH OF OUR STUDENTS IF THEY'RE WRITING AND SUBMITTING DOCUMENTS AND PAPERS AND SUCH. THERE ARE CERTAIN TRIGGERS THAT WILL ALERT AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO WORK AND SUPPORT THAT STUDENT. NAVIGATE360 IS WHERE OUR CERT PLANS AND MANAGEMENT OF DRILLS ARE HOUSED IN THAT AREA. RAPTOR IS SIMPLY THAT IS THE SYSTEM THAT WE USE FOR ALL OF OUR PERSONNEL AND ALL OF OUR VISITORS AND GUESTS, AND I SEE THE BADGES ON OUR VISITORS TODAY WHERE THEY COME IN AND THEY SWIPE INTO THE SYSTEM. THEY HAVE TO GIVE THEIR LICENSE AND SUCH. UNDER SOFTWARE LICENSE, 0267, ALERTUS IS A NOTIFICATION THAT ALLOWS US FOR OUR HEARING [00:45:04] IMPAIRED STUDENTS THAT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HEAR ALARMS AND SUCH. THIS IS A DIFFERENT SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE FOR THOSE STUDENTS SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE IN THE EVENT THAT SOMETHING HAPPENS. THEN SMARTPASS THAT'S LISTED UNDERNEATH THERE. THAT'S OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL HALL PASS SOFTWARE SOLUTION THAT WE UTILIZE. ON THE TOP OF 31 CONTINUING, UNDER 0601, EQUIPMENT COUNTY PURCHASE. YOU'LL SEE A DECREASE THERE OF $120,000. AGAIN, REMINDER LAST YEAR WE HAD IN THE BUDGET. I WANT TO SAY IT WAS AROUND $120,000 TO REPLACE SCHOOL SECURITY CAMERAS AS WELL AS THE SERVER. WE WERE ABLE TO REPLACE SERVERS, BUT WE DID NOT REPLACE THE CAMERAS, SO THAT $120,000 IS THE REDUCTION OF THE SERVERS THAT WE UPGRADED LAST YEAR, BUT THERE DOES NOT REFLECT THE CAMERAS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ADDED THIS YEAR. >> CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? SORRY. I THINK LAST YEAR RAPTOR WAS COVERED BY A GRANT. IS IT NO LONGER COVERED BY A GRANT? >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO. THAT COMES THROUGH MR. ROUSH AND HIS OFFICE AND THROUGH THE MARYLAND CENTER FOR SCHOOL SAFETY. THEY HAD VARYING GRANTS THAT COME OUT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. WE UTILIZE THOSE GRANTS TO SUPPORT VARIOUS INITIATIVES AS WE MOVE THROUGH. IT COULD BE. IT JUST DEPENDS UPON WHEN THE GRANT IS ISSUED. >> MS. HOPPER, I THINK, IS TRYING TO FIND THAT INFORMATION RIGHT NOW IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET. >> MOVING ON TO DIVISION OF EDUCATION SERVICES, AND I WILL REINFORCE WHAT I SAID TO YOU FOLKS AT THE WORK SESSION THAT WE HAD IN JANUARY, THAT OUR COORDINATORS DID COME FORWARD WITH MANY REQUESTS, AND WE CUT MOST OF THEM. THIS IS A BARE BONES BUDGET. YOU'LL SEE LIMITED, THERE WERE REDUCTIONS IN PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, CURRICULAR RESOURCES THAT ARE VERY NEEDED WITH REVISIONS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO LINE BY LINE WITH YOU THROUGH ED SERVICES AT THIS TIME, SO GET READY. BUCKLE UP. THE FIRST ONE IS DIVISION OF EDUCATION SERVICES, 40,000. THE FIRST THING YOU'LL SEE THERE IS THE GENERAL ASSISTANT, AND THERE IS AN INCREASE OF $100,000 IN THAT LINE, AND THAT IS TO SUPPORT THE SAFE AND SICK. OUR GENERAL ASSISTANTS AS THEY'RE WORKING, THEY QUALIFY FOR SICK LEAVE IF THEY WORK A CERTAIN NUMBER OF HOURS. THAT COVERS THAT EXPENSE FOR THEM. MOVING DOWN, WE SEND ASPIRING SCHOOL LEADERS TO THE ACADEMY OF SCHOOL LEADERSHIP AT SALISBURY UNIVERSITY, AND THAT ALLOWS UNDER CONTRACTED SERVICE ALSO DEAF INTERPRETING WHEN WE REQUIRE THAT SERVICE FOR PEOPLE THAT WE SUPPORT. ONE THING THAT WE DID AS A STRATEGY FOR COST SAVINGS. YOU'LL SEE AN INCREASE IN OUR COUNTY PURCHASE SUPPLIES, IS WE COLLAPSED ALL THE COORDINATOR SUPPLIES THAT THEY REQUIRE FOR THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING, AND BASICALLY WE ARE HOLDING A LINE JUST IN THE ED SERVICES BUDGET, AND THEY COME TO US FOR THEIR STAPLES, AND PAPER CLIPS, AND PENCILS, ETC. INSTEAD OF INDIVIDUAL SUPPLY LINES, IT'S ALL COMING UNDER ONE PLACE. WE HAVE A CLOSET NOW AND ONLY ONE KEY. MOVING ON, UNDER FORMS, YOU'LL SEE WE DO PAY THE COST OF DIPLOMAS, COVERS DUPLICATE DIPLOMAS WHEN PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY COME FORWARD ASKING FOR THEIR OLD DIPLOMAS AND EARLY COLLEGE ACADEMY DIPLOMAS. WE HAVE A COST THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. MEETINGS AND CONFERENCES, WE DO HAVE SOME LINES THERE FOR ADMIN AND EXEC CONFERENCES AS WELL AS PRINCIPALS. IF WE ARE ATTENDING CONFERENCES, THERE ARE SPACE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, BUT I WILL TELL YOU CONFERENCE PARTICIPATION IS VERY MINIMAL AT THIS TIME. THERE ARE ALSO MEMBERSHIPS THAT YOU'LL SEE HERE. THOSE ARE NEGOTIATED. MAESP AND NASP ARE BASICALLY THE MARYLAND ASSOCIATION OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PRINCIPALS AND SECONDARY SCHOOL PRINCIPALS, YOU'LL SEE. OUR EDUCATIONAL LEADERS RECEIVE A STIPEND TO SUPPORT MEMBERSHIP TO THOSE PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS. >> AS PART OF THE CONTRACT. >> AS PART OF THIS NEGOTIATED. AS PART OF THE CONTRACT. MOVING DOWN TO SALARIES AND WAGES. NOW, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A DIFFERENCE HERE OF $112,000. >> THAT BASICALLY ARE TSI FUNDS THAT WE USED IN THE PAST TO PAY FOR OUR STUDENT INTERNS. WE USE TSI FUNDS THAT THOSE TSI FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE GONE, AND SO WE HAVE PULLED A LINE ITEM IN TO COVER THOSE STUDENT INTERNS WHO ARE GOING TO OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND SUPPORTING AS A PART OF OUR APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMING. >> FOR THE BOARD'S AWARENESS, TSI IS TRANSITIONAL SUPPLEMENTAL INSTRUCTION. IT IS A PIECE OF THE BLUEPRINT, AND WE HAVE BEEN USING THAT REVENUE. HOWEVER, AS STATUTE CURRENTLY IS WRITTEN, THAT MONEY PHASES OUT NEXT YEAR. >> THE NEXT EPED THAT YOU SEE UNDER SALARIES AND WAGES ARE EXTRA PAY FOR EXTRA DUTY. THOSE COVER STIPENDS TO PAY FOR A VARIETY OF CLUBS THAT OCCUR IN OUR SCHOOLS, [00:50:05] MAINLY OUR SECONDARY SCHOOLS. MOVING DOWN YOU'LL SEE AN INCREASE OF $90,000, AND THAT IS TO PAY FOR COVERAGE OF CLASSROOMS. WE WERE AT A VERY LOW RATE OF COVERAGE TODAY IN OUR DISTRICT. WHEN WE CAN'T COVER CLASSROOMS, THIS IS A LINE THAT PROVIDES A STIPEND TO TEACHERS TO COVER CLASSROOMS BEYOND THEIR PLANNING PERIODS, I APOLOGIZE. WHAT YOU'LL SEE NEXT, YOU'LL SEE SOME TEACHER PD AND MEETINGS AND SUBS AND THAT BASICALLY, THE TEACHER PD IS BEYOND THE DUTY DAY IF WE CALL TEACHERS IN TO HELP WITH CURRICULUM DEVELOPMENT, AND THE TEACHER MEETING WITH ARE THOSE EVENTS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE DURING THE DUTY DAY. DOWN AT THE BOTTOM. THIS IS WHERE AN INCREASE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE REALLY IN THIS ED SERVICES FALLS FOR NATIONAL BOARD TEACHERS. WE CURRENTLY HAVE 44 NATIONAL BOARD TEACHERS IN CECIL COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, AND THOSE NATIONAL BOARD TEACHERS, AS YOU KNOW, RECEIVE A $10,000 STIPEND FOR THAT CERTIFICATION THAT RECEIVED. YOU ALSO SEE NBC MOC RENEWAL, THAT IS THE MAINTENANCE OF CERTIFICATE. THESE ARE NBCS WHO ARE AT THE END OF THEIR TEN YEAR CERTIFICATION AND ARE TRYING TO MAINTAIN THEIR CERTIFICATE, AND THEY RECEIVE A STIPEND FOR THAT RENEWAL AS WELL. >> WHEN THEY RECEIVE A STIPEND, DO THEY GET THAT EVERY YEAR THEN OR THEY GET IT THE YEAR OR THE DAY? >> EVERY YEAR. >> EVERY YEAR, THAT THEY'LL HAVE AN ACTUAL 10, 000 STATEMENT, CORRECT? WE DO HAVE TEACHERS. WE DO HAVE TWO LOW PERFORMING SCHOOLS CURRENTLY AND WE HAVE NATIONAL BOARD TEACHERS IN THOSE SCHOOLS. THEY RECEIVE IN ADDITION TO THEIR $10,000 STIPEND, A $7,000 STIPEND ON TOP OF THAT FOR SERVING IN THOSE LOW PERFORMING SCHOOLS. THIS IS ALL BLUEPRINT. MOVING ON. YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >> NO. >> MOVING ON SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS. LET'S GO DOWN. YOU'LL SEE A MEETINGS AND CONFERENCES. THAT IS FOR COMMON GROUND CONFERENCE OR PROFESSIONAL LEAVE. WE DO HAVE SOME TEACHERS ATTENDING NATIONAL CONFERENCES AND PRESENTING, AND SO WE HAVE SOME FUNDS THERE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THOSE FOLKS SHOWING OFF OUR WORK ON A NATIONAL LEVEL. MOVING INTO CTE, WE ARE REQUIRED BY BLUEPRINT TO TRACK EXPENSES IN CAREER AND TECHNOLOGY EDUCATION AND ALL OF THE PURCHASES THAT GO WITH THAT. AT OUR CAREER AND TECHNOLOGY PROGRAM. THE FIRST LINE YOU'LL SEE AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF 31 IS OUR GENERAL ASSISTANT THAT WE PAY FOR THAT SCHOOL BECAUSE IT IS A PROGRAM. MOVING IN, THERE'S SUBSECRETARY LINE, AND THAT SCHOOL DOES NOT RECEIVE A PER PUPIL ALLOCATION. WE DO PROVIDE SOME FUNDS FOR SUPPLIES AND BUILDING PURCHASES THAT YOU SEE LISTED OVER AT THE TOP OF PAGE 32. MOVING INTO SALARY AND WAGES, WE HAVE SUMMER HOURS, NOT ONLY FOR OUR AG DEPARTMENT, SO WE CAN FEED THE ANIMALS AND WATER THE PLANTS OVER THE SUMMER. KEEP ALL OF THOSE THINGS ALIVE. OUR COSMETIC DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO CONTINUE HOURS FOR OUR STUDENTS OVER THE SUMMER BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY HOURS THEY HAVE TO GET IN AND PRACTICE. WE ALSO PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR OUR CTE COACH TO MAKE SURE STUDENTS IN THEIR APPRENTICESHIPS AND ARE GETTING SERVICES OVER THE SUMMER AS WELL. NATURAL RESOURCES, AGAIN, THAT'S COMING IN TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE PLANTS ARE WARED, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE. SUMMER CURRICULUM WRITING IS LISTED THERE TO SUPPORT CTE. AS WELL AS QUARTERLY MEETINGS FOR OUR CONTENT SUPPORT TEACHERS. WE DO HAVE ONE NATIONAL BOARD TEACHER AT THE SCHOOL OF TECHNOLOGY AND SHE'S REPRESENTED THERE. MOVING DOWN, YOU'LL SEE SEVERAL CODES LISTED HERE. THERE'S ONLINE COURSE CODES TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE MATERIALS AND RESOURCES FOR THE COURSES THAT THE STUDENTS ARE TAKING AT THE SCHOOL OF TECHNOLOGY. YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THOSE COURSES LISTED THERE THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE PARTICIPATING IN AND THE SUPPLIES THAT GO WITH THOSE PROGRAMS. >> I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT HERE WHEN YOU SEE ONLINE CODES, ONLINE CODES, BOOKS, THAT JUST HAPPENS TO BE HOW THE DETAIL WAS ENTERED. IF THEY ENTER IT THE EXACT SAME WORDING AND SPELLING, WE COULD COLLAPSE IT TOGETHER INTO ONE LINE. BUT SINCE IT WAS ENTERED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT CONTENT AREAS, THAT'S WHY IT PRINTS LIKE THIS. IT IS THE SAME THING. IT'S JUST A WAY IT'S HUMAN ERROR AND ENTRY. >> WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SITUATIONS INSTANCES OF THAT THAT WE ARE NOTING, FOR SURE. >> BACKING UP A LITTLE BIT. WHEN YOU TALKING ABOUT THE CTE COACH. IS THAT THE STUDENTS THAT ARE DOING APPRENTICESHIPS AT DIFFERENT BUSINESSES AND THEN THEY HAVE A COACH? >> WELL, DURING THE SUMMER, THOSE APPRENTICESHIPS DON'T NECESSARILY TAKE PLACE OVER THE SUMMER, BUT THEY COME IN AND PREPARE OUR STUDENTS FOR THE SCHOOL YEAR. >> THAT'S WHAT THE CTE IS? >> THAT'S A SMALL STIPEND FOR THEM TO COME IN OVER THE SUMMER. >> WE USED TO HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE STUDENTS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS COULD GO AND WORK AT DIFFERENT NON PROFITS. DID WE LOSE THAT? >> NO >> THEY STILL HAVE THAT GOING ON? >> CORRECT. >> GOOD. >> THAT'S ACTUALLY PAID FOR OUT OF A GRANT THAT COMES FROM THE MARYLAND STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. [00:55:01] WE WERE NOT ABLE TO FUND THAT LAST YEAR BECAUSE OF A REDUCTION IN THAT GRANT. >> WE DIDN'T HAVE IT LAST YEAR. >> WE DID NOT. >> BUT WE'LL MOVE FORWARD AND HAVE IT THIS YEAR? >> WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO, BUT WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION FOR THOSE STUDENTS BASED ON THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF FUNDING IN THAT GRANT. >> MS. DIXON, WE DO HAVE A STEP PROGRAM THAT DOES PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES. >> RIGHT. >> THAT'S THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. >> WELL, I GOT THAT, BUT I I HAD AT LEAST ONE PARENT APPROACH ME WELL, PROBABLY LAST YEAR ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SUMMER PROGRAM, AND THAT MAKES SENSE THAT WE LOST THE GRANT MONEY. >> YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THROUGHOUT DIVISION OF EDUCATION SERVICES THAT THE SENSITIVE AND TRACKABLE ITEMS ARE GOING TO START TO APPEAR IN DEPARTMENTS, AND THIS IS ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT. IN CTE, THESE ARE SOME OF THOSE TECHNOLOGY REFRESHES THAT NEED TO TAKE PLACE IN THAT PROGRAM. THEY LIVE UNDERNEATH THE CTE LINE. YOU SEE IRC AT THE BOTTOM, THAT'S INDUSTRY RECOGNIZED CREDENTIALS, AND THOSE ARE CERTIFICATIONS THAT STUDENTS NEED TO TAKE AND THERE'S A COST INVOLVED IN TAKING THOSE TESTS TO GET THEIR CERTIFICATE. MOVING OVER TO PAGE 33. YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE SOME FIELD TRIPS LISTED THERE, FBLA, FIRE SCIENCE, FIELD TRIP, AND SYSTEM WIDE FIELD TRIPS, AND THAT ALLOWS STUDENTS TO VISIT AND PREP TO COME AND UNDERSTAND THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE HAPPENING AT CCST. IT COULD BE A PART OF THEIR FUTURE AND PREVIEW THE PROGRAMMING THAT IS THERE. WE DO HAVE A LINE ITEM THERE FOR CCST EQUIPMENT REPAIRS. IF SOMETHING BREAKS DOWN, WE HAVE SOME FUNDS SET ASIDE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE REPAIRS THAT ARE MUCH NEEDED. MOVING DOWN, WE'RE GOING TO JUMP INTO SPECIAL EDUCATION DOWN AT THE VERY BOTTOM HERE. >> BLENDED VIRTUAL >> I'M SORRY, MISS BLENDED VIRTUAL. I MISS RIGHT BY THAT. BLENDED VIRTUAL PROGRAM LIKE OUR CTE DOES NOT RECEIVE A PER PUPIL ALLOCATION. WHAT WE DO IS WE DO PROVIDE SOME FUNDS FOR THEM FOR THE OPERATION OF THEIR PROGRAM, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE AT THE VERY TOP. MOVING DOWN, WE DO HAVE DAYS FOR A COUNSELOR TO COME IN AND HELP SCHEDULE STUDENTS FOR THE BLENDED VIRTUAL PROGRAM SO THAT THEY ARE RECEIVING THE CREDITS THEY NEED TO GRADUATE. >> FOR THE BOARD'S AWARENESS AS IT RELATES TO THE BLENDED VIRTUAL PROGRAM. RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS EACH MIDDLE SCHOOL GIVES A HALF TEACHER, BASICALLY, SO THAT IF YOU TALK TO ANY MIDDLE SCHOOL STAFF, THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT SOME OF THE TEACHERS TEACH IN THE BVP, AND THAT MEANS THEY'RE TEACHING STUDENTS ONLINE EXCLUSIVELY FOR THAT PERIOD. WE TAKE TWO CLASSES FROM EACH MIDDLE SCHOOL TO MAKE THREE TEACHERS. OUR GOAL IS TO PUT TEACHERS ACTUALLY IN JUST TO TEACH BVP AND NOT AT A MIDDLE SCHOOL AND BVP. WE HOPE THAT WE'LL DO, IT'LL BE A LIFT. THOSE THREE POSITIONS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE. BUT WHAT WE HOPE TO DO IS TO TAKE SOME OF THE PRESSURE OFF THE CLASS SIZES, WHICH ARE REALLY MOST STRIKING IN MIDDLE SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW. >> HOW MANY BVP STUDENTS DO WE HAVE CURRENTLY? >> WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 200 IN GRADE SIX THROUGH 12. THAT NUMBER EBBS AND FLOWS. >> RIGHT. >> ONE THING YOU'LL SEE IN THE BVP, YOU'LL SEE THE HOT SPOTS, AND THAT HELPS THOSE STUDENTS TO ACCESS THE INSTRUCTION. THAT IS A BIG LINE ITEM FOR THOSE STUDENTS IN THE BVP PROGRAM. SPECIAL EDUCATION. AS WE MOVE DOWN. WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS A REALLY BIG INCREASE IN THE AREA OF OUR CONTRACTED SERVICES. THOSE CONTRACTED SERVICES REALLY ARE NOT ONLY OUR WORK WITH OUR IN DISTRICT CLASSROOM THAT WAS ADDED AT RISING SUN HIGH SCHOOL, THAT HAS CONTRACTED OUR WORK WITH DEVEREAUX, WHICH SUPPORTS BEHAVIORAL NEEDS FOR OUR STUDENTS AND HELPS US CONSULT WITH US. WE ALSO HAVE INTERPRETING AND TRANSLATION SERVICES AND IT ALSO PAYS FOR A CONTRACTED NURSE TO SUPPORT THE NEEDS OF STUDENTS THAT MAY REQUIRE SUPPORT. YOU'LL SEE SOME SOFTWARE LISTED THERE AS WELL, AND THAT IS BASICALLY DOCUSIGN TO HELP WITH OUR PROCESS WITH SIGNING OFF ON FORMS WITH OUR PARENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN LINE WITH THE LAW. AT THE BOTTOM, YOU'LL SEE SOME SENSITIVE TRACKING ITEMS AT A BIG INCREASE. MOST OF THOSE ITEMS ARE STARTING TO AGE OUT AT THIS POINT. TO HAVE, FOR INSTANCE, THE TOUCH SCREEN COMPUTER THERE THAT YOU SEE, THAT THEY'RE NOT WORKING ANYMORE, AND WE NEED THEM FOR OUR STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS CURRICULUM AND RESOURCES. STUDENT TRANSPORTATION IS A BIG LINE ITEM IN SPECIAL EDUCATION, AND THIS COVERS BUS CONTRACTS, SPECIALIZED TRANSPORTATION AND TO GET STUDENTS WHERE THEY NEED IN SPECIAL EDUCATION. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO NON PUBLIC, AND I WILL POINT OUT TO YOU IN NON PUBLIC THAT YOU CAN START TO SEE THE COSTS OF THE VERY EXPANSIVE COST OF NON PUBLIC EDUCATION. [01:00:02] DR. MILLER AND HER TEAM HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DROP THE COST. THERE IS A COST SAVINGS THIS YEAR COMPARED TO LAST YEAR. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE PLACEMENTS AND THE COST OF THOSE PLACEMENTS FOR STUDENTS BEING IN NON PUBLIC SETTINGS. WE HAVE ONE STUDENT QUITE EXPENSIVE, YOU CAN SEE WITH THE AMOUNT OF SUPPORT THAT THEY REQUIRE. BECAUSE HE GOES OUT OF STATE OR OUT OF COUNTY OR? >> NON PUBLIC OR TYPICALLY OUT OF THE COUNTY. THAT STUDENT IN PARTICULAR, I MENTIONED THIS AT CAC LAST WEEK. >> RIGHT. >> THAT STUDENT IN PARTICULAR NOT ONLY IS IN A NON PUBLIC SETTING, BUT ALSO HAS TWO PARAPROFESSIONALS AND A NURSE, I BELIEVE, DR. MILLER, SO THAT REQUIRES REALLY EXTENSIVE SUPPORT FOR THEIR NEEDS. >> NEXT TIME YOU HEAR SOMEBODY IN THE COMMUNITY. SAY, WHY DOES A PRIVATE SCHOOL DO IT FOR $8,200 A YEAR, BUT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS. WE HAVE TO SERVE EVERY CHILD THAT COMES THROUGH OUR DOORS REGARDLESS OF THEIR CIRCUMSTANCES. MANY TIMES IT'S EXTREMELY PRICEY. JUST IT IS WHAT IT IS THING AND THE IP TEAMS DECIDE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, WE TRY TO DO RIGHT BY THE STUDENT. BUT THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH MANY OF OUR STUDENTS. >> 4.2 MILLION DOLLAR SERVICES 51 STUDENTS. JUST TO PUT THAT INTO PERSPECTIVE. >> SAY THAT AGAIN? >> 4.2 MILLION DOLLAR SERVICES 51 STUDENTS. >> I'M GUESSING THAT COMES TO ABOUT $80,000 A YEAR. >> EIGHTY FOUR SOMETHING. >> YOU'RE RIGHT >> YEAH. WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WE HAVE AN EXTREME CASE LIKE THAT STUDENT. IS THERE BECAUSE WE GET WHAT, MAYBE $30,000 TOWARDS THAT STUDENT WHEN YOU COMBINE ALL THAT? >> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE FOUNDATION [OVERLAPPING] WITH FOUNDATION. TYPICALLY THE AVERAGE COST PER STUDENT OR WE RECEIVE REVENUE IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $17,500. NOW, IF IT'S A STUDENT WITH A DISABILITY, STUDENT, IT'S AN ENGLISH LEARNER, POVERTY, YEAH, THE BLUEPRINT RAMPS UP THE FUNDING, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, YOUR NOTION IS CORRECT. >> WE MAY GET 50,000 FOR THAT STUDENT. >> THEN ALSO, I BELIEVE WE GET SOME LEVEL OF STATE SUPPORT TO REIMBURSE, BUT IN THE PIECE OF PENDING LEGISLATION, THAT PERCENTAGE IS GOING DOWN. >> CURRENTLY UNDER CURRENT LEGISLATION, WE PAY $31,000 RIGHT UP FRONT FOR ANY STUDENT THAT GOES INTO A NON PUBLIC SEAT. BEYOND THAT, THE STATE REIMBURSES FOR THAT STUDENT WHO'S $160,000 A YEAR, THEY'LL GIVE US 70% OF THAT, AND THEN WE'LL PAY THE ADDITIONAL 30% THAT'S LEFTOVER. IN LEGISLATION FOR NEXT YEAR, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING TO A 60/40 SPLIT WITH US PICKING UP 40, THEN PICKING UP 60 AND THEN IN THE 27 SCHOOL YEAR, 50/50 SPLIT. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT'S GOING. >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. THE TREND RIGHT NOW. YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY THIS BEFORE. RIGHT NOW COUNTIES ARE REALLY UNDER THE GUN BECAUSE SO MUCH IS BEING PUSHED FROM THE STATE TO THE COUNTY. >> IS THAT 70/30 SPLIT THAT EXISTS THIS YEAR IN THE FOUNDATION INCOME NUMBERS? OR IS THAT ADDITIONAL THAT COMES OUT AFTER THAT? >> AFTER THAT. >> THAT'S ADDITION. >> IT'S ABOVE. >> OKAY. [OVERLAPPING] >> IT'S CALLED NON PUBLIC TUITION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM NTAP. >> THANK YOU. >> THAT CHILD'S PARENTS INSURANCE, THEY DON'T CHIP IN ANYTHING? >> IT'S NOT MEDICAL INSURANCE, IT'S SCHOOL. IT'S WHAT THEY NEED FOR EDUCATION. SO NO. >> ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT NON PUBLIC OR SPECIAL ED? PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICES. THIS SUPPORTS OUR SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGISTS. THERE IS PER DIEM TIME, AND THAT SUPPORTS EDUCATIONAL TESTING THAT MAY HAVE TO OCCUR TO MEET TIMELINES OVER THE SUMMER. WE ALSO NEGOTIATE AN ESSENTIAL EMPLOYEE STIPEND SO THAT WE KEEP OUR SCHOOL SYKES. THERE IS A NATIONWIDE SHORTAGE FOR THOSE POSITIONS. I NEGOTIATE A STIPEND FOR THEM. YOU'LL SEE ALSO SOME CONTRACTED SERVICES FOR SCHOOL SYKES. THOSE POSITIONS WE BRING IN TO MEET THE DEMAND OF THE CASELOAD AND SUPPORT STUDENT ASSESSMENTS IN THAT AREA. YOU'LL ALSO SEE SOME PEARSON ONLINE SOFTWARE, THAT'S ASSESSMENT PRODUCTS THAT WE USE TO ASSESS STUDENTS FOR LEARNING NEEDS THAT OUR SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGISTS DO. I'M MOVING INTO RELATED SERVICES. >> QUICK QUESTION ON THAT. SORRY. >> YES. >> WE HAVE A BIG INCREASE ON CONTRACTED SERVICES. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE DOUBLING OUR BUDGET. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT IS HAPPENING IN PARTICULAR FOR THAT TO HAPPEN? >> YES. THAT'S A SHORTAGE AND APPLICANTS FOR THAT, SO I HAVE TO SEE CONTRACTED SERVICES TO BACKFILL THOSE EMPLOYEES. >> IF WE HIRE EMPLOYEES, IT WOULD BE OKAY. >> CORRECT. >> EXCUSE ME. OR IF WE HIRE A RELATED SERVICE PROVIDER DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR, [01:05:05] IT COULD POTENTIALLY OFFSET THE COST HERE, BUT YOU WOULD SEE THE INCREASE IN SALARIES AND FIXED CHARGES. OKAY. IT'S ALWAYS A BALANCING DEPENDING ON THE WORKFORCE AVAILABILITY. >> YES. JUDGES POINTED OUT. THEY'RE MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE THAN OUR PEOPLE THAN AN FTE. YOU'LL SEE THE SAME THING AS YOU MOVE INTO THE RELATED SERVICE PROVIDERS, SO YOU SEE THAT MASSIVE LIST THERE. THESE ARE ALL PTS, OTS, COTAS, SLP. >> AKOTA IS A CERTIFIED OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY ASSISTANT. APT IS A PHYSICAL THERAPIST, AND SLP IS A SPEECH LANGUAGE PATHOLOGIST. THE SLPA IS A SPEECH LANGUAGE PATHOLOGIST ASSISTANT. ALL OF THESE ARE POSITIONS THAT MEET THE CASELOAD BECAUSE WE CAN'T FIND THESE FTES OUT THERE. THERE'S SHORTAGE NATIONWIDE. WE GO TO CONTRACTING AGENCIES TO MEET THE DEMANDS. I WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU, YOU SEE THE SLPV? SLPV AND A FACILITATOR. THAT IS A VIRTUAL SPEECH LANGUAGE PATHOLOGIST. IF YOU HAVE A VIRTUAL SPEECH LANGUAGE PATHOLOGIST SITTING ON A CHROMEBOOK, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ADULT SITTING WITH THAT CHILD PHYSICALLY. WE HAVE TO PAY NOT ONLY FOR THE VIRTUAL PERSON, BUT FOR THE FACILITATOR TO BE PRESENT AS WELL. DR. MILLER AND HER TEAM WORK REALLY HARD TO BUILD SCHEDULES TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S STREAMLINED IN PLACEMENT, ETC. YOU CAN SEE THE EXPENSES THAT GO INTO THAT. >> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE BLUEPRINT, AND ITS BREAKDOWN OF FUNDING PER CHILD BASED ON THE NEEDS OF THE CHILD, THE SPECIAL EDUCATION ALLOCATION THAT COMES FOR OUR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES IS NOT REALLY EVEN IN THE BALLPARK. IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE. IT'S TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SHORT, JUST IN A SYSTEM LIKE OURS. YOU CAN IMAGINE A HOWARD COUNTY, MONTGOMERY COUNTY. THE STATE IS SCREAMING OUT FOR TIERED FUNDING SYSTEM FOR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES BECAUSE NOT ALL STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES ARE THE SAME, OBVIOUSLY. BUT THESE KINDS OF THINGS HIGHLIGHT REALLY THE COSTS ARE JUST PROFOUND. >> I'LL POINT OUT AND REMIND YOU THAT YOU SEE IT'S A 0.1 0.2, SO IT'S IT'S A PORTION. IT'S NOT A FULL TIME 1.0 FTE. >> CHAIR DAVIS, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO. I THOUGHT I SAW YOU. JUST A TICK. >> YOU KNOW WHAT I'LL TABLE THAT. THAT'S OKAY. >> LET'S SAY WE HAVE WE HIRE OUT TO GET A PT, PHYSICAL THERAPIST. IS THE REASON THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO STAY WITH US IS BECAUSE THEY GET PAID MORE BEING CONTRACTED? >> DR. MILLER WILL TELL YOU, WE HAVE SEVERAL WHO ONCE THEY WORK HERE, THEY WANT TO STAY HERE AND THEY WANT TO BECOME AN FTE. >> BUT THEN DO THEY LOSE MONEY BECAUSE THEY LEFT THE CONTRACTED FIELD, OR DOES IT WASH BECAUSE WE'RE NOT HAVING TO PAY FOR THE CONTRACTED LIKE THE COMPANY. >> THE BENEFIT TO THE EMPLOYEE IS THAT THEY GET OUR EMPLOYEE BENEFITS AND THEY GET PAID WHEN SCHOOLS ARE CLOSED. BECAUSE OUR TEACHERS GET PAID WHEN SCHOOLS ARE CLOSED FOR SNOW. OUR TEACHERS GET PAID OVER THE SUMMER IF THEY ELECT TO GO ON A 12-MONTH SALARY SCALE. CONTRACTED EMPLOYEES DO NOT WORK OR DO NOT GET PAID IF THEY ARE NOT PHYSICALLY IN THE BUILDING WORKING WITH CHILDREN. WE USUALLY CONVERT TWO TO THREE CONTRACTORS INTO EMPLOYMENT. WE UNDER OUR CONTRACTS AND SERVICE AGREEMENTS WITH THE AGENCIES, WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM UNDER CONTRACT FOR TWO YEARS BEFORE WE CAN OFFER THEM EMPLOYEE. >> THEN OFTENTIMES, AREN'T THERE A BUYOUT CLAUSE WITH THE CONTRACTOR FOR US TO TAKE ONE OF THEIR PEOPLE? >> THEY DO NOT HAVE A BUYOUT CLAUSE. THEY'RE JUST WE CAN ELECT TO HIRE THEM. AFTER TWO YEARS. IF WE TRY TO TAKE THEM EARLY, THEN YES, WE HAVE TO BUY OUT OF THE CONTRACT. >> I THINK I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK MY QUESTION, DR. LAWSON. MAYBE WRAP THE WHOLE QUESTION ONCE AGAIN, BUT WILL ANY CUTS TO THE FEDERAL LEVEL AT THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION FORCE US TO GO BACK AND HAVE TO REDO ANYTHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW? >> I THINK THE ANSWER THAT'S PROBABLY NO, AND NOT FOR THE REASONS ONE MIGHT THINK, THE REASONS ARE THE FEDERAL CALENDAR IS DIFFERENT THAN OURS IN TERMS OF BUDGETING. THE FEDERAL CALENDAR GOES FROM SEPTEMBER 30 TO OCTOBER 1ST TO OCTOBER 1ST. BUT YES, I THINK POSSIBLY THIS FALL WHEN WE SEE IF THINGS CHANGE, WE TYPICALLY GET ANYWHERE FROM $10-12 MILLION A YEAR FROM OUR FEDERAL TITLE MONEY. IT'S NOT NOTHING. IT'S IT'S 4%, 5%, 6% OF OUR BUDGET. I THINK YOUR LARGER POINT IS A GOOD ONE, AND THAT I FULLY EXPECT US TO HAVE TO ADJUST THIS BUDGET AND MASSAGE BETWEEN NOW, FRANKLY, AND JULY 31, [01:10:02] WHEN WE START TO CLOSE OUT. IT'S GOING TO BE A MOVING TARGET HERE FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS. >> WHAT IF AN EXECUTIVE ORDER IS PUT OUT, SAY THE END OF THIS WEEK REGARDING DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND THE FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT KIND OF. >> I THINK IT WITHOUT GETTING TOO FAR OVER MY SKIS HERE, THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION WAS CREATED, I BELIEVE, DURING THE KENNEDY ADMINISTRATION IN THE '60S, AND ANYTHING THAT'S CREATED THROUGH LEGISLATION CANNOT BE UNCREATED THROUGH EXECUTIVE ORDER. IT WOULD TAKE AN ACT OF CONGRESS TO COLLAPSE THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. NOW, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION COULDN'T AFFECT SOME OF THE REGULATIONS AND POLICIES TO COME OUT THROUGH THE DOE? WELL, THEY CERTAINLY COULD. COULD THEY AFFECT THE FUNDING THAT COMES TO THE DOE? I WOULD SAY NOT SO MUCH IN THAT THAT THOSE REVENUES HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY CONGRESS. ONCE SOMETHING HAS BEEN APPROVED THROUGH CONGRESS, IT'S MUCH MORE CLUNKY TO BE UNAPPROVED. IF IT'S BEEN APPROVED THROUGH AN EXECUTIVE ORDER, THAT'S WHERE IT STARTS TO BECOME MUCH MORE EASY TO EFFECT THROUGH A COUNTER EXECUTIVE ORDER. I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING. WE'RE IN A HOLDING PATTERN AND THESE EXECUTIVE ORDERS HAVE BEEN GENERATED. WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL, AND HE'S VERY MUCH IN A WAIT AND SEE WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. THERE'S AN ARTICLE THIS MORNING'S WALL STREET JOURNAL ABOUT COLLAPSING THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. THIS IS EDITORIALIZING NOW. I'D BE SURPRISED IF THERE'S A POLITICAL WILL AROUND THE COUNTRY TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN THROUGH LEGISLATION. >> I FEEL LIKE THE IDEA ISN'T FUNDED TO THE LEVEL FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT IT SHOULD BE FUNDED ANYWAY, CORRECT? IT'S LIKE, 10% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT VERSUS. >> LET ME PUT MISS MILLER ON THE SPOT. WHAT'S THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S CONTRIBUTION. >> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT JUST PER HOUR? >> I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FEDERAL CONTRIBUTION, WHAT WAS IT IDA AB AND IDEA. >> MY PASS THROUGH FUNDS RIGHT NOW ARE ABOUT $2.3 MILLION. >> IT'S PRETTY LOW COMING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN TERMS OF SPECIAL EDUCATION IDEA. I FEEL LIKE IT KEPT GETTING LOWER AND LOWER. >> THERE'S A LOT OF ANXIETY ON THE ISSUE, BROADLY SPEAKING. >> CORRECT. >> DOES THAT HELP, MR. DAVIS? >> YES, IT DOES. THANK YOU. >> JUST A REMINDER THAT THIS BUDGET IS OUR UNRESTRICTED BUDGET. OUR FEDERAL MONEY IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET. HOWEVER, PART OF YOUR POINT, IF FEDERAL FUNDING WAS REDUCED, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE USING FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THAT THEN IF THESE THINGS NEEDED TO REMAIN IN OUR BUDGET, THEN HOW WOULD WE PAY FOR THEM? BUT NONE OF THIS IS GRANT FUNDING FROM THE FEDERALS OR THE STATE? IT'S ALL LOCAL. >> DOES CONTINUES. WE HAVE INFANT AND TODDLER LINES DOWN AT THE BOTTOM. THIS IS CONTRACTED SUPPORT AND PUSH IN SERVICES FOR STUDENTS WHO'VE BEEN IDENTIFIED WITH DISABILITIES PRIOR TO AGE THREE. THEY MAY HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED BY THEIR DOCTOR OR REFERRED. WE DO TESTING, AND THEN GO IN AND PROVIDE DIRECT SERVICES TO STUDENTS BEFORE THEY ENTER SCHOOL AND ARE ELIGIBLE FOR SCHOOL AGE. MISS DIXON, THE NEXT ONE IS STEP THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT. YOU'LL SEE A ZERO LINE THERE, BECAUSE BASICALLY, THE REVENUE THAT THEY GENERATE AS A PART OF THEIR PROGRAM IS ABLE TO PURCHASE THE SUPPLIES TO SUSTAIN THEIR PROGRAM. IT'S A SELF SUSTAINING GROUP, WHICH IS REALLY QUITE GREAT. >> I'M GOING TO PUT AN ADVERTISEMENT IN FOR STEP RIGHT NOW. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THEM. THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF WORK FOR US, WHICH I'M REALLY HAPPY. >> IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. WHAT IT DOES NOT COVER IS THE MANPOWER. IT COVERS MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES. IT DOES NOT PAY FOR THE TEACHERS AND PARAPROFESSIONAL SUPPORT, WHICH ARE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. >> NEXT IS OUR EARLY CHILDHOOD LINES. WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN EARLY CHILDHOOD. YOU'LL SEE SOME WORKBOOKS FOR FOUNDATIONS, WHICH IS OUR DEVELOPMENTAL READING PROGRAM FOR KINDERGARTEN. YOU'LL SEE CDA MATERIALS. THAT'S OUR CHILD DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATES THAT IS REQUIRED FOR OUR TEACHERS WHO ARE PARAPROFESSIONALS WHO ARE NEEDING THAT CERTIFICATION TO BE ABLE TO WORK IN EARLY CHILDHOOD SETTINGS, SO THAT PAYS FOR THE MATERIALS FOR THEIR COURSEWORK. YOU'LL ALSO SEE SOME FOUNDATIONS KITS AND START-UP FOR PRE-K 4, WHICH ARE ASSESSMENT TOOLS. ONE OF THE BIG THINGS YOU'LL SEE IN EARLY CHILDHOOD HERE IS A REDUCTION OF $390,000. HERE'S THE WHY. THE PRIVATE PRE-K THAT PAYS FOR THESE PRIVATE PRE-K PROVIDERS, THE FUNDS THAT WERE COMING TO US, AND WE WERE PASSED THROUGH TO HELP FUND THIS AND THE STATE IS NOW GOING RIGHT TO THE COUNTY. IT COMES OFF OF OUR BOOKS, IT COMES OFF OF OUR LEDGERS. THAT'S WHY THAT BIG DECREASE IS THERE. MOVING ON TO STUDENT PERSONNEL SERVICES. THIS IS OUR STUDENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. [01:15:01] THIS CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY IS GOING TO INCREASE THIS BY $1.9 MILLION, BUT IT IS NOT REFLECTED HERE AT THIS TIME. JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND, CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY LIVES IN THIS CATEGORY. SOME OF THE THINGS YOU'LL SEE, YOU'LL SEE THE IDC SEATS. THESE ARE THE IN DISTRICT CLASSROOMS THAT WE CONTRACT WITH HIGH ROADS AND OTHER AGENCIES TO REALLY HAVE ALTERNATIVES AND CONTINUUM OF SERVICES FOR STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOL SETTING, AS WELL AS AT THE CCL ALTERNATIVE PROGRAM, WHICH IS CAP FOR SECONDARY STUDENTS. >> DR. HAMMER, I KNOW THIS IS AN AREA WHERE BOARD MEMBERS HERE PRETTY REGULARLY ABOUT CHALLENGES OUR TEACHERS FACE AS IT RELATES TO STUDENTS MISBEHAVIOR AND CONDUCT, PLEASE DON'T EVERYTHING FOR A MOMENT. WE DON'T TRY TO RESPOND TO THAT AND PROVIDE SUPPORTS TO OUR STUDENTS. WE DO, AND THIS IS WHERE IT FALLS. YOU CAN SEE JUST HOW COSTLY SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS. IT IS NOT LOST ON US THE NEED TO HAVE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES FOR OUR STUDENTS DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY ARE IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT. THIS IDEA THAT WE DON'T RESPOND, WE DO TO THE TUNE OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THIS IS SOMETHING AND I TRY NOT TO REALLY EVER PAT MYSELF ON THE BACK, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE REALLY PUSHED SINCE 2018. WE JUST SAW A NEED EARLY ON, AND WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO RESPOND TO OUR SCHOOLS WITH THESE SUPPORTS FOR STUDENTS. >> ARE ALL OF THE SEATS FULL, IS THERE AVAILABILITY IF A STUDENT NEEDED TO GO INTO IT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. WE HAVE A TEAM THAT WORKS USING DATA, AND IT'S QUALITATIVE AND QUANTITATIVE DATA TO DETERMINE WHERE A STUDENT NEEDS TO BE AND WHAT PLACES ARE AVAILABLE. THE THING THAT BECOMES VERY CHALLENGING IS IF WE HAVE A STUDENT WHO HAS BEHAVIOR CHALLENGES AT AKANA WINGO, BUT WE ONLY HAVE SEATS AT CECIL MANOR, THERE'S TRANSPORTATION INVOLVED IN THAT. WE KEEP SEATS AVAILABLE AND WE'RE CONSTANTLY WORKING TO BUILD STUDENT SKILLS SO THAT THEY ARE MOVING INTO THEIR LEAST RESTRICTIVE ENVIRONMENT, WHICH IS THE REGULAR CLASSROOM. IT'S A CONSTANT EBB AND FLOW AGAIN. >> THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE OUR RIS CLASSROOMS. I'LL PUT DR. MILLER ON THE SPOT TO TELL ME WHAT RIS STANDS FOR. BUT WE HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SERVICES, DIFFERENT KINDS OF RIS PROGRAMS. DR. MILLER, COULD YOU? >> RESPONSIVE INDIVIDUALIZED STRUCTURED ENVIRONMENT, AND WE HAVE THOSE FOR BEHAVIOR AND FOR COMMUNICATION. THE COMMUNICATION CLASSROOMS ARE DESIGNED FOR STUDENTS WITH PROFOUND COGNITIVE AND COMMUNICATION DELAYS, AND THE BEHAVIORAL SUPPORT CLASSROOMS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE THE RIS B CLASSROOMS. >> WE HAVE OUR RIS CLASSROOMS IN ADDITION TO THESE. >> YEAH. WE HAVE THOSE STRUCTURED FOR PRE-K TO 2 AND THEN THREE TO FIVE. >> CECIL COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS WORKS TO BE A FULLY INCLUSIVE SCHOOL SYSTEM, WE TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE ON THAT, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT STUDENTS COME TO US IN DIFFERENT PLACES AND THAT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE ALL STUDENTS WITH SOME LEVEL OF SUPPORT THAT REFLECTS WHAT THEIR NEED IS. I THINK WE DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF IT. >> DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE SUPPORTED IN THAT LINE, THE 2.3 MILLION? >> I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU. >> SECONDARILY, BACK TO I THINK THIS WAS AS A READY, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'VE HEARD. YOU HEAR PEOPLE SAY, "THERE'S DISRUPTIVE KIDS IN THE CLASS AND THEY CAN'T GET PLACEMENT OR THEY DON'T GET PLACEMENT BECAUSE OF BEING CONSERVATIVE WHEN IT COMES TO TAKING THEM OUT OF CLASSROOM BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PUT THEM IN THOSE CLASSROOMS." IS THAT JUST PATTERN? >> SOME. BUT I WILL SAY THIS. PEOPLE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT COST IS ALWAYS A CONSIDERATION. BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT JUST AS MUCH OF A CONSIDERATION, PARTICULARLY FOR LITTLE GUYS, IS THE GROWTH YOU'LL SEE IN A FOUR, FIVE, AND SIX-YEAR-OLD, ONCE THEY ARE IN A STRUCTURED CLASSROOM OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, OFTENTIMES, WHEN WE SEE A NEW PRE-K KID COME IN A FOUR-YEAR-OLD, EVEN A KINDERGARTNER WITH CLEAR CHALLENGES, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS TO DO IS PUT STRATEGIES IN PLACE AND WAIT BECAUSE WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS REAL GROWTH WITH THESE LITTLE GUYS AT AN EARLY AGE. THEY'VE JUST NOT EVER BEEN EXPOSED TO SOME OF THE STRUCTURES THAT WE EXPECT. THAT'S SOMETHING AS A HIGH SCHOOL MATH TEACHER, I'VE COME AROUND TOO, BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT. RIGHT AWAY, I THINK A LAY PERSON SAYS, "WELL, IF THIS CHILD IS STRUGGLING AS A FIVE-YEAR-OLD, WE NEED TO PUT THEM IN AN ALTERNATIVE SETTING." WHEREAS OUR POSITION, OFTENTIMES, "LET'S WAIT AND SEE." LET'S TRY THIS AND THIS BECAUSE ONCE THESE STUDENTS TEND TO GO INTO THESE PROGRAMS, TOO OFTEN THEY DON'T COME OUT. I THINK THAT TRY TO QUALIFY SOME OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YEAH, I THINK THERE'S A BALANCE THERE OF PATIENTS, PROGRAMS AND FUNDING. >> IS THAT SIMILAR THOUGHT AS THEY GET OLDER THOUGH, IF IT'S A MIDDLE SCHOOL KID BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU HEAR IT THE MOST IT SOUNDS LIKE IN MIDDLE SCHOOL WHERE THERE'S A DISRUPTIVE STUDENT THAT BREAKS UP THE CLASS AND ONE STUDENT MAKES IT HARD FOR THE OTHER 30 TO PARTICIPATE. I PROBABLY WAS THAT STUDENT, SO I'M NOT CASTING ROCKS. [01:20:01] >> ME TOO. I DON'T WANT TO FILIBUSTER HERE, DR. MILLER. BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, I THINK THE PATIENTS AND CHILD DEVELOPMENT IS MUCH MORE OF A LIKELY PHENOMENON TO HAPPEN AT THE YOUNGER AGE. I WOULD ALSO SAY THE IDEA OF STUDENTS AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL, ACTING OUT IN SUCH A WAY WHERE CLASSROOMS ARE EVACUATED IS RARE. WE DON'T SEE THAT ALL THE TIME. I WON'T PUT MISS RINGO ON THE SPOT, BUT IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN THAT OFTEN. THESE TEND TO BE YOUR LITTLE GUYS, YOUR FIVE, SIX, SEVEN-YEAR-OLDS WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO REGULATE, AND SUBSEQUENTLY, YOU TRY TO ISOLATE THEM A LITTLE BIT SO YOU CAN DEAL WITH THE INTERVENTION, DR. MILLER, YOU WILL WEIGH IN? >> YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION REGARDING THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS. CURRENTLY, WE HAVE 19 STUDENTS AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL, AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER 18 STUDENTS AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LEVEL, AND THAT IS ONLY FOR THE IDCS. THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE RIS B CLASSROOMS, AND THEN ACTUALLY, WE ALSO HAVE FOUR AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, BUT THAT'S A SPECIAL EDUCATION PROGRAM SOLELY. >>YOU CAN SEE THERE'S 30 SEATS FOR SECONDARY STUDENTS AT THE CCL ALTERNATIVE PROGRAM THAT'S LISTED THERE. >> REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >> WHEN WE HAVE A STUDENT, LET'S SAY, A 13-YEAR-OLD WHO'S BEEN IN HIGH ROADS, WHAT'S THE HIGH ROADS THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE SCHOOL? PERRYVILLE HAS A HIGH ROADS THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE SCHOOL. DO YOU FOLLOW ME? >> IT'S CONFUSING. THE ORGANIZATION THAT SUPPLIES THESE PROGRAMS FOR US IS CALLED SESI SCHOOLS. SESI SCHOOLS HAS MANY DIFFERENT ITERATIONS, ONE OF WHICH IS OUR IDC OR OUR IN DISTRICT CLASSROOMS. THOSE ARE NOT HIGH ROADS PROGRAMS, BUT THE STAFFING IS FILLED BY THE SAME ORGANIZATION, SESI SCHOOLS, THAT SUPPLIES TRAINING TO HIGH ROADS TEACHERS. THE ONE THAT'S UP IN CHERRY HILL, THAT IS A HIGH ROAD'S PROGRAM, THAT'S A NON PUBLIC PLACEMENT. >> LET'S SAY WE HAVE A STUDENT IN THE SESI SCHOOL ROOM THAT'S IN PERRYVILLE HIGH SCHOOL. IS THERE ONE IN PERRYVILLE HIGH SCHOOL OR MIDDLE SCHOOL? >> NEITHER. THERE'S ONE AT PERRYVILLE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. >> I HAVE A YOUNG MAN WHO WAS IN ONE OF THOSE SPECIAL HIGH ROAD SESI SCHOOLS, WHATEVER. >> IN A DISTRICT CLASSROOM. >> IN A DISTRICT CLASSROOM, AND FORTUNATELY, HE GRADUATED OUT, WHICH WAS GREAT, BUT NOW HE'S REALLY STRUGGLING. HOW DOES MOM GETTING BACK IN THERE? I KNOW THIS IS BUDGET. >> IF THE PARENT HAS SPECIFIC CONCERNS, THEY NEED TO REQUEST AN IEP MEETING. >> BACK TO THE LINES FOR STUDENT PERSONNEL SERVICES. YOU'LL SEE A CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY COMMUNITY SERVICES LISTED THERE WITH AN INCREASE, AS WELL AS OUT-OF-COUNTY LIVING; WE HAVE ALIGNED FOR ANY STUDENTS WHO ENTER INTO KINSHIP CARE THAT MAY BE OUT OF OUR DISTRICT, SO WE HAVE TO SUPPLY ALIGN FOR THAT. MOVING DOWN, YOU'LL SEE STUDENT SERVICES SUPPLY ACCOUNT, MEMBERSHIPS, PUBLICATIONS FOR PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS, AND SOME MILEAGE THERE AS WELL. AT THE BOTTOM, SOME BIG LINE ITEMS, THE BOTTOM OF 35, FOSTER CARES AND SPECIAL TRANSPORTATION, AS WELL AS THAT HOMELESS TRANSPORTATION THAT DR. LAWSON WAS SPEAKING ABOUT WITH MCKINNEY-VENTO. TOP OF PAGE 36. THIS AGAIN IS FOR CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY SCHOOLS FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES FOR NURSE AND CSAS THAT ARE REALLY FOUND IN OUR FTE LINES. BUT YOU CAN SEE COMMUNITY SERVICES ARE LISTED HERE FOR THAT. HOME AND HOSPITAL. WE HAVE HOME AND HOSPITAL TEACHER SALARIES, DJS, DSS, PLACEMENTS, FUNDS FOR THAT. EDMENTUM IS AN ONLINE LEARNING TOOL FOR HOME AND HOSPITAL STUDENTS. THE STUDENTS WHO ARE NOT WELL ENOUGH TO ATTEND SCHOOL AND RECEIVE SERVICES OUTSIDE OF THEIR SCHOOL. LEARN WELL IS SIMILAR TO EDMENTUM. WE ALSO HAVE TEACHER MILEAGE FOR THE HOME AND HOSPITAL TEACHER. FOR ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION, THIS IS A BIG INCREASE HERE. BASICALLY, TSI, WHICH IS THAT TARGETED SUPPLEMENTAL INSTRUCTION IS EXPIRING AND SO WE USE THOSE FUNDS TO PAY FOR TWILIGHT, AND THOSE FUNDS AS WE SAID, ARE EXPIRING, SO WE'VE HAD TO INCREASE THAT LINE IN OUR BUDGET TO COVER THE TWILIGHT EXPENSES. BUS TRANSPORTATION FOR TWILIGHT. IS THERE AS WELL. >> ARE WE STILL HAVING TWILIGHT EVERY DAY? >> WE DO, I BELIEVE. TWILIGHT EVERY DAY. >> I KNOW THEY TRY TO AVOID FRIDAYS. > FOR A GOOD REASON. >> I THINK IT'S HIGH SCHOOL ONLY OR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL ONLY. WHEN I WAS A MIDDLE SCHOOL, WE WERE DOING TWICE A WEEK AT MIDDLE SCHOOLS. >> STUDENT HEALTH SERVICES ARE NEXT. THIS IS WHERE OUR NURSING SUPPORT LIVES. IF WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE SUMMER SCHOOL OR JUMP START IN OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS, [01:25:04] THERE'S NURSING SUPPORT THAT'S REQUIRED. WE HAVE LINE FOR THAT. SUBSTITUTE NURSE COVERAGE IS REALLY EXPENSIVE AND VERY DIFFICULT RIGHT NOW WITH ILLNESS SPREADING AROUND. WE HAVE TO TRAIN IN CPR, AS WELL AS WE HAVE TO GET AED AND AUDIOMETER REPAIRS AND CALIBRATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE TOOLS ARE WORKING PROPERLY. HEALTH ROOM SUPPLIES IS A BIG LINE HERE AND ALSO NEW AED FOR THE ASC, THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES CENTER, AND OTHERS THAT MAY NEED TO BE REPLACED THAT HAVE AGED OUT ACROSS THE DISTRICT. WE ALSO PAY FOR CPR INSTRUCTOR FEES AND LICENSING RENEWALS FOR OUR STAFF. >> DR. HAMMER? >> YES. >> IS THE TWILIGHT PORTION IS THAT THE ONE PLACE IT'S HOUSED AT 305,000 OR IS IT LISTED MULTIPLE TIMES? OR IS THAT THE TOTAL COST OF TWILIGHT? >> THAT'S THAT'S THE TOTAL COST. THE INCREASE YOU CAN SEE IS 152. >> DIANA, DID WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM THE ONE PARENT THAT WE SHOULD ASK HERE ABOUT TWILIGHT? LET ME SEE IF I HAVE IT. I REMEMBER THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THAT LETTER THAT WE GOT THIS MORNING. >> THIS MORNING. >> YEAH. I GOT IT. ASKING ABOUT HOW MANY STUDENTS TWILIGHT SERVES IS IT A REQUIRED PROGRAM? HOW MANY STUDENTS PARTICIPATE AND DO WE HAVE A MEASURE OF SUCCESS TO SHOW FOR THOSE WHO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM? >> DR. JOHNSON IS PRETTY WELL-VERSED WITH TWILIGHT. DR. JOHNSON? >> SURE. >> GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS ENROLLED IN TWILIGHT CHANGES EACH DAY, BECAUSE A TWILIGHT ROSTER IS BASED ON STUDENT NEED ACADEMICALLY AND IN SOME CASES, BASED ON A DISCIPLINARY PLACEMENT AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO SUSPENSION SO THAT ONE PROGRAM HOUSES MULTIPLE GROUPS OF STUDENTS. YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'VE ALLOCATED FUNDS FOR THINGS LIKE HAVING COUNSELORS PRESENT, HAVING CERTIFICATED STAFF MEMBERS AND SPECIAL EDUCATORS PRESENT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS PER DAY CHANGES. ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, THE MEASURE OF SUCCESS, THE PRIMARY CRITERIA THERE IS FOR STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT. FOR SOME STUDENTS, THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE PREVENTING THEM FROM A DAY OF SUSPENSION. FOR OTHER STUDENTS, IT MEANS THAT WE'RE GIVING THEM NECESSARY OPPORTUNITIES TO RECOUP AND EARN PASSING GRADES. >> AS A LONGTIME HIGH SCHOOL PRINCIPAL, ITS A WAY TO KEEP YOUR KIDS ENGAGED. INSTEAD OF JUST PUTTING THEM OUT, YOU KEEP THEM AROUND, LIKE DR. JOHNSON SAID, YOU CAN BRING THEM IN FOR TUTORING AS A WAY TO AVERT PERFORMING POORLY, OR IT'S AN ALTERNATIVE TO SUSPENSION. >> ARE WE CONTINUING TO USE IT FOR ATTENDANCE AS WELL? >> WE DO MAKEUP TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR. >> FOR CHRONIC ABSENTEES. >> FOR SURE. OUR TRUANCY CHRONICALLY ABSENT RATES HAVE JUST BEEN FANTASTIC IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO. >> I GUESS THAT'S THE QUESTION IS, DO WE SEE IMPROVEMENT IN BEHAVIORS WITH THIS OR DO WE SEE A CRUTCH TO BEHAVIORS WHERE A STUDENT KNOWS THAT THEY HAVE A SECOND CHANCE OVER AND OVER AGAIN SO THEREFORE, THEY DON'T TRY AS HARD ON THEIR FIRST CHANCE? HOW DO WE GAUGE THAT AND MEASURE THAT? >>TO BE CANDID, WE PROBABLY DON'T. I MEAN, HOW THERAPEUTIC IS TWILIGHT, IT'S SERVICEABLE MORE THAN IT IS THERAPEUTIC. LET'S FACE IT, SOME OF OUR STUDENTS COME IN, AND THEY'RE NOT WIRED TO BE THERE WIRED HOURS A DAY, FOUR OR FIVE BLOCKS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. THEY DO PERFORM BETTER. WE TRY TO TAKE THE KIDS WHERE THEY ARE AND GET THEM THROUGH THE FINISH LINE. IT'S A REAL ASSET AS IT RELATES TO GRADUATION COMPLETION AS WELL BECAUSE YOU NEVER JUST CUT A KID LOOSE PER SEE. YOU TRY TO KEEP THEM AND WORK WITH THEM. >> I MEAN, IT IMPROVES STUDENT OUTCOMES, I THINK OVERALL, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES. I DO THINK THAT TWILIGHT IS A WORTHWHILE. IN MY OPINION, AND I THINK IT'S A VERY WORTHWHILE INVESTMENT. >> DO WE? WHAT'S THE ON AVERAGE OF STUDENTS THAT IN A WHOLE YEAR? HOW MANY DO YOU THINK YOU SEE IN TWILIGHT? >> HUNDREDS. >> USUALLY HUNDREDS. KEEP IN MIND, YOU HAVE 12 SECONDARY SCHOOLS. >> IS IT POSSIBLE TO SCALE DOWN THE NUMBER OF DAYS THAT WE HAVE? DO WE LOOK AT WHAT DAYS ARE MORE USED. >> WE CAN ASK MR. ROUSH TO PUT TOGETHER SOME DATA FOR YOU, BUT I'M SURE. I MEAN, LISTEN, KEEP IN MIND THAT AS A PRINCIPAL, YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE THREE TEACHERS EVERY DAY WANT TO STAY AFTER SCHOOL AND RUN TWILIGHT. YOU HAVE TO CARBATE THAT WITH WHO'S INTERESTED AND WHAT THE NEED IS AND IF WE TELL SCHOOLS, YOU CAN USE IT FOUR DAYS A WEEK? A LOT OF THAT'S DRIVEN BY TRANSPORTATION, NO PUN. BUT THEY'LL USE IT AS THE DEMAND IS THERE? WE GET YOU A LOT OF INFORMATION ON HOW IT'S USED. IT'S BEEN GONE PROBABLY FOR A GOOD 1O YEARS NOW. WE'VE COME TO RELY ON IT AND HONESTLY, IT'S EVERYWHERE. TWILIGHT IS A BIG THING IN ALL SCHOOLS NOW. [01:30:02] >> I HAVE NO DOUBT IT IS BENEFICIAL. WE NEED IT. I'M JUST WONDERING, IS IT POSSIBLE TO CONSOLIDATE SOME, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBILITY. >> MAYBE BY THE END OF THIS, WE CAN TRY TO ROUND YOU UP SOME HISTORICAL SPENDING. BECAUSE KEEP IN MIND THIS IS WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED FOR THE YEAR. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN ACTUAL. >> WE MADE IT THROUGH HEALTH SCIENCES. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT MEDIA PROGRAMMING RIGHT NOW. THIS IS OUR MEDIA CENTERS AS WELL AS USED ACROSS THE DISTRICT. YOU'LL SEE SOME CURRICULUM WRITING AS WELL AS SOME IT REFRESH IN OUR MEDIA CENTERS FOR SOME MUCH-NEEDED EQUIPMENT. YOU'LL SEE SOME SOFTWARE AND ALSO SOME ACCESS TO PUBLICATIONS AND SUBSCRIPTIONS, AND THIS IS HOW STUDENTS ACCESS INFORMATION IN THOSE MEDIA CENTERS. MOVING OVER ONTO PAGE 37, WE MOVE INTO GUIDANCE SERVICES. WHAT YOU'LL SEE AT THE VERY TOP UNDER SALARIES AND WAGES, YOU'LL SEE INFORMATION REGARDING SUMMER, WHICH IS GRADE REINSTATEMENT, AND ATTENDANCE RECOVERY, WHICH PAYS FOR TEACHERS TO SUPPORT STUDENTS ACROSS THE FINISH LINE, ESSENTIALLY, AND SUPPORT THAT WORK. THIS IS WHERE THE PAY FOR TWILIGHT AND DROPOUT PREVENTION TAKES PLACE. UNDER THIS LINE IS WHERE THE COUNSELORS ARE PAID TO PARTICIPATE IN TWILIGHT. SUMMER HOURS FOR THE CRISIS TEAM. >> WE HAD A SITUATION THIS PAST SUMMER. WE DID NOT HAVE A LINE ITEM, AND WE HAD A CRISIS OVER THE SUMMER, WITH A LOSS OF AN EMPLOYEE. WE HAVE ADDED A LINE THERE FOR THAT TO SUPPORT A CRISIS TEAM TO GATHER IN THE SUMMER AND SUPPORT EMPLOYEES OR STUDENTS AS NEEDED. ALSO, THERE'S A LINE THERE FOR SUMMER PER DM PAY FOR OUR COUNSELORS TO HELP SUPPORT STUDENTS SCHEDULING OVER THE SUMMER. ALSO, CRISIS COUNSELING AND NAVANS TRAINING WILL HAVE TO TAKE PLACE IF WE HAVE NEW COUNSELORS TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND THE PROGRAMMING WE USE TO SUPPORT STUDENTS NAVIGATING THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL. OUR CTE COUNSELOR HAS A PPA LINE FOR SUPPLIES JUST FOR THAT SCHOOL. YOU CAN SEE ALSO HERE THIS IS WHERE THE CAREER COACHING COMES THROUGH US FOR THE SUSQUEHANNA WORKFORCE NETWORK FOR CAREER COUNSELORS. IT COMES THROUGH US. THAT'S WHERE THAT $814,000 LINE IS FOR US. WE ALSO HAVE A BULLYING CONTEST THAT IS NOT TO SEE WHO IS THE BIGGEST BULLY, BUT IT IS A CONTEST TO BUILD A PBIS POSTERS AND STUDENTS PARTICIPATE THAT. YOU'LL SEE THOSE POSTERS AND BILLBOARDS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY TO CELEBRATE BULLYING PREVENTION. >>QUICK QUESTION. YOU SAID THE 813 WAS THE SUSQUEHANNA WORKFORCE NETWORK? DO WE MONITOR THAT AT ALL, OR IS THAT EVEN NOT IN OUR PURVIEW TO KNOW IF IT'S ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING? >> I'LL ASK MISS SOPA TO ADDRESS THAT HOT-BUTTON ISSUE. >> DR. FOY WORKS WITH THE COLLEGE AND WITH SUSQUEHANNA WORKFORCE NETWORK TO DEVELOP AN MOU AND A BUDGET. THEN I ESTABLISH THE PAYMENT SYSTEM WHERE THEY INVOICE US. BUT WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT WHEN THEY INVOICE US, WE MUST PAY THEM THE ENTIRE AMOUNT FOR THE YEAR THAT'S OWED TO SUSQUEHANNA WORKFORCE NETWORK. RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE THE BUDGET FOR WHAT THEY'RE SPENDING THEIR FY $25 FOR. THEY HAD CARRYOVER FOR FY 24 AND WE'RE STILL WAITING ON A BUDGET FOR THAT BECAUSE THEY DID NOT SPEND ALL THEIR FY 24. AS FAR AS THEY'RE REPORTING TO THE STATE, THEY'RE NOT REPORTING TO US. >> IT JUST FEELS LIKE ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT SHOULDN'T BE IN OUR BUDGET BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY OF OVERSEEING IT. LIKE I FORGET WHAT WE TOOK OUT EARLIER THAT WENT DIRECT. THE SECOND WAS THE PRIVATE SCHOOL BIT. >> SAME DYNAMIC. >> BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE $813,000 THAT WE HAVE WHEN WE DON'T HAVE IT. >> WELL, TWO YEARS AGO, IF YOU RECALL, WE GOT A STATE INCREASE UPWARDS OF $13 MILLION, A MILLION OF IT WAS THERE, AND ANOTHER MILLION WAS HELP ME, THERE WERE A COUPLE PASS-THROUGHS THAT WE HAD. IT'S FRUSTRATING ON OUR PART. THEY HAVE UPWARDS OF 6-7 CAREER COACHES IN THE SYSTEM, AND WE DON'T OVERSEE THEM. >> I THINK AS A PARENT, TOO, PARENTS DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY WOULD CHALLENGE THIS EXPENSE, AND IS IT SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO SPEND, AND IS IT USEFUL TO OUR STUDENTS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE OVERSEER IS? >> WE'RE REQUIRED BY BLUEPRINT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. BLUEPRINT TELLS US THE AMOUNT AND IT'S THE AMOUNT PER STUDENT, AND IT'S BASED ON YOUR ENROLLMENT, K-12, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONLY STUDENTS IN THE SECONDARY SCHOOLS THAT ARE SERVICED. >> I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE NOT SOMETHING BEING DONE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS. AND SO I'VE BEEN ASKED THAT QUESTION. WHAT'S THAT BEING SPENT ON AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. >> IT'S THE CAREER COACH COACH. THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, ARE WE REQUIRED TO DO THE PASS-THROUGH TO THE WORKFORCE? [01:35:02] ARE WE REQUIRED TO HAVE THEM PROVIDE CAREER COACHES? >> REQUIRED. IS IT WRITTEN IN THE STATUTE THAT WAY? NO, AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, IS THAT HOW IT'S BEING OPERATIONALIZED ACROSS THE STATE? YES. I WILL SAY WE HAVE EIGHT STAFF, ONE FOR EACH HIGH SCHOOL TO INCLUDE THE SCHOOL OF TECH, ONE MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND THEN A SUPERVISOR. THOSE EIGHT ARE PAID FOR BY SUSQUEHANNA FORCE NETWORK THROUGH REVENUE THAT ARE GIVEN TO US BY THE STATE AND WE GIVE IT TO SWIN. >> WHO MANAGES THE STAFF? >> SWIN. >> IF WE HAD A PROBLEM WITH PERFORMANCE OR ACCOUNTABILITY, WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT OUR EMPLOYEES. >> WE GO TO SWIN. >> THAT COULDN'T BE DONE IN-HOUSE IS WHAT YOUR QUESTION MAKES ME THINK. >> I GUESS IT WOULD REQUIRE FTE, I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE. >> RE-NEGOTIATE THE MOU. >> I THINK SOME SCHOOL SYSTEMS DID IT THAT WAY AT THE TIME THAT WE WERE EXPLORING IT WITH THE CUT IN FUNDING AND HAVING TO BRING ON AND BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FTES, BECAUSE IT'S ALSO NOT CLEAR HOW LONG THIS CAREER COACHING REQUIREMENT WILL EXIST AND WILL EXTRA MONEY IN THE BLUEPRINT OR EXTRA WILL MONEY BE ALLOCATED, OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU THEN JUST ABSORB? THE MOU WAS DONE TO HAVE SWIN HIRE THE COACHES, SO WE WEREN'T RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE FTES. NOW, THIS YEAR, WE DID PAY FOR. WE HAVE ONE FTE HERE WHO IS A COACH THAT WE PAY FOR OURSELVES, BUT ALL THE REST OF IT, AND SO WE PULL THAT MONEY BACK, SO WE HOLD THAT MONEY AND THE REST GETS PAID TO SWIN. >> IF WE WANTED FOR OUR OWN, I DON'T KNOW, EDIFICATION, WHATEVER, WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO CONTACT SWIN AS A BOARD TO ASK FOR ANY STATISTICS AS TO WHAT'S BEING DONE. >> I WOULD PROBABLY RUN THIS THROUGH THE STATE DEPARTMENT OR THE ACCOUNTABILITY IMPLEMENTATION BOARD AIB. I THINK WE HAVE SOME LEVERAGE TO RENEGOTIATE THE MOU. BUT WE HAVE AN MOU, AND TO CHANGE WHAT WE HAVE, WE WOULD HAVE TO ASK TO REOPEN THE MOU. NOW, THAT SAID, I'D PROBABLY HAVE A LOT MORE ENTHUSIASM TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF I KNEW FOR SURE, THAT THIS WORKFORCE GROUP WOULD BE IN EXISTENCE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. LEGISLATION, I BELIEVE, HAS IT EXPIRING AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR, AND THEN IT GOES AWAY. IT HAS TO BE RE-APT AS A STANDALONE. IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT A LOT. DIFFERENT SYSTEMS ARE DOING IN DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT I THINK ACROSS THE STATE, THERE IS SOME LEVEL OF FRUSTRATION. I GUESS IT IS PUBLIC FUNDING, SO ANY PARENT COULD KIND OF ASK HOW IT'S BEING SPEND. >> SURE THEY COULD. BUT TRUTHFULLY, IT'S RESTRICTED MONEY AND SO WHATEVER NOISE WERE TO COME TO THIS ROOM ABOUT THAT PROGRAM, THERE'S NOT MUCH WE'RE DOING TO CHANGE IT AT THE MOMENT. AGAIN, ABSENT A NEW MOU. >> WHAT I WILL SAY IN OPERATION IS WE DO HAVE PRETTY CONSISTENT MEETINGS WITH SWIN AND THEIR LEADERSHIP TO TALK THROUGH ANY CHALLENGES AND PROGRESS THAT WE MAKE WITH ONE ANOTHER. THEY'VE BEEN VERY OPEN TO SUPPORT THINGS THAT WE CAN'T NECESSARILY HAVE BUDGETED FOR US, A VARIETY OF THINGS. >> SO THAT'S A GOOD POINT, DR. HAMMER. I DON'T WANT TO ACT LIKE WE'RE THROWING THEM UNDER THE BUS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT. WE KNOW WE HAVE A JOB COACH IN EACH OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS, AND THEIR JOB IS TO DO JUST WHAT IT WOULD SUGGEST, THEY TRY TO LINE UP STUDENTS WITH EMPLOYMENT. THERE'S A LOT OF BELIEF IN THAT THROUGH THE APPRENTICESHIP MODEL. WE'VE BEEN REALLY ACTIVE WITH THAT. THIS IS DOWN THAT PATH. CONCEPTUALLY, FROM A PRINCIPAL PERSPECTIVE, DO I AGREE WITH THAT THIS LINING UP CAREERS AT A FAIRLY EARLY AGE? I PROBABLY DON'T. BUT NONETHELESS, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S THE LAW, AND IT'S A REALLY GOOD THING FOR A LOT OF KIDS. BUT AM I A LITTLE BIT OF A CONTROL FREAK IN THE SENSE THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM UNDER OUR. I DO. I'M LIKE THAT A BIT. >> I THINK ONLY BECAUSE IT'S IN THE BUDGET AND WE GET ASKED ABOUT IT, WE CAN'T REALLY ANSWER QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW. IT COMES UP QUITE A BIT. WHAT IS THAT BEING SPENT ON? >> THE EASY ANSWER. SALARIES. ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY SALARIES. >> THERE IS A BUDGET IN THE MOU THAT INCLUDES, THEIR PLAN FOR HOW TO SPEND THE FY $25. >> DO WE GET ANY DATA BACK FROM HOW SUCCESSFUL THE COACHES HAVE BEEN OR WHAT. [OVERLAPPING] >> NOT YET. >> WE'RE IN OUR SECOND YEAR? >> BUT I'M SURE THEY COULD SHOW YOU HOW MANY JOBS THEY HAVE FOUND FOR STUDENTS. BUT KNOW THAT IN THE WORLD OF CONTROLLING COSTS, IF I'M YOU, I'M FOCUSING ELSEWHERE FOR NOW. >> I THINK I'M LOOKING AT THE TIME AND I'M LOOKING AT THE SCHEDULE. I THINK NOW IS A GOOD TIME TO HAVE A MOTION TO RECESS FOR A HALF HOUR FOR LUNCH. IS THERE A MOTION? [01:40:02] >> I MOVE THAT WE TAKE A HALF AN HOUR FOR LUNCH. >> SECOND. >> SORRY. [LAUGHTER] I'M TRYING TO [LAUGHTER] ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. >> AYE. >> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A RECESS, RECONVENE HERE SHORTLY AFTER 12:00. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE BACK. WE WILL RECONVENE OUR FY 26 BUDGET WORK SESSION, I BELIEVE WE WERE AT ELEMENTARY MATH. DR. HAMMER. >> THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO GET MOVING INTO MANY OF OUR CONTENT AREAS IN OUR DIVISION OF EDUCATION SERVICES STARTING WITH ELEMENTARY MATHEMATICS. IF YOU RECALL IN THE WORK SESSION, THIS IS A BIG INCREASE THAT YOU'LL SEE FROM OUR PREVIOUS YEAR'S BUDGET. MUCH OF OUR CURRICULUM FOR ENVISION AND IMAGINE LEARNING, WERE FUNDED BY LEFTOVER ESSER FUNDS. SO WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT LAST YEAR AND THIS NOW COMES BACK INTO OUR BUDGET AS AN EXPENSE FOR US TO USE. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THOSE EXPENSES ARE THERE UNDER INSTRUCTIONAL RESOURCES AND CONTRACTED SERVICES TO PROVIDE THE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT FOR THOSE PROGRAMS. TOWARD THE BOTTOM, YOU'LL SEE AN ACADIANS DATA MANAGEMENT, AND THAT ALLOWS US TO HAVE DATA COME IN FROM OUR ASSESSMENT THAT WE'RE USING WITH ACADIANS TO SEE WHERE STUDENTS ARE WITH THEIR MATH NEEDS. YOU'LL SEE SOME SOFTWARE LICENSES THERE TO SUPPORT ENVISION AND IMAGINE LEARNING, WHICH ARE TWO PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING. MOVING DOWN SECONDARY MATHEMATICS. IT'S THE SAME CHALLENGE. YOU'LL SEE A GRADE 6, 7 AND 8 REVIEW AND REVISED. THE STATE OF MARYLAND IS IN THE PROCESS OF REVISING OUR MATHEMATICS STANDARDS, AND SO IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE TIME IN THE SUMMER FOR OUR COORDINATOR AND OUR LEAD TEACHERS, OUR CONTENT SUPPORT TEACHERS TO DO SOME REVISIONS TO OUR MATHEMATICS PROGRAMMING. YOU'LL SEE THOSE CHANGES ARE GOING TO BE COMING AT US VERY SOON. THAT WORK, HOPEFULLY, WILL BE ABLE TO HAPPEN IN THE SUMMER SO THAT WE CAN BE PREPARED TO IMPLEMENT WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT ARE. WHAT YOU'LL SEE MOVING TO THE TOP OF PAGE 38. THIS IS ALSO THE PUSH OF OUR MATH PROGRAMMING BACK INTO OUR BUDGET BECAUSE IT WAS ONCE SPENT OUT OF THE ESSER FUND. THAT'S NOW BACK INTO THE BUDGET, WHICH IS OUR ASCEND, WHICH IS A MATH INTERVENTION PROGRAM. SAVS LEARNING IS THE ONLINE PROGRAMMING THAT WE HAVE FOR STUDENTS IN SECONDARY SCHOOLS FOR MATHEMATICS. ELEMENTARY ELA IS NEXT. THIS IS A REDUCTION IN TSI, WHICH IS AGAIN, THE TARGETED SUPPLEMENTAL PROGRAM WE'VE MENTIONED IT A COUPLE TIMES TODAY IS SLOWLY BEING REDUCED. IT'S WANING. YOU'LL SEE A PRETTY LARGE REDUCTION THERE FOR OUR TSI FUNDS. WE ALSO IN ELEMENTARY ELA, HAVE FUNDS SET ASIDE FOR OUR FUNDS, COMPOSITION BOOKS, AND NOTEBOOKS, AND THAT'S OUR DEVELOPMENTAL READING PROGRAM THAT WE USE FOR OUR STUDENTS IN OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. THE TSI IS FUNDING CHAPTER 1. YOU SEE THAT AMOUNT OF 813. THAT IS GOING TO BE PRETTY MUCH GOING AWAY NEXT YEAR. THESE CHAPTER 1 OUR HIGH DOSAGE TUTORING SYSTEM WHERE THEY COME INTO OUR EARLY CHILDHOOD CLASSROOMS AND WORK WITH EVERY SINGLE CHILD TO ASSESS WHERE THEY ARE AND THEN PROVIDE HIGH TUTORING BASED ON THEIR IDENTIFIED NEEDS. THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY WANING AS WE MOVE INTO NEXT YEAR, BUT IT'S STILL LIVING IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. >> THAT IN THE OUT YEARS, WE'RE EITHER GOING TO HAVE TO FIND A REVENUE STREAM TO SUPPORT THAT TUTORING OR LET IT GO ALTOGETHER. >> SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THE MATH STUFF. THE LICENSES. HOW LONG DO THOSE LAST AND DO THEY COVER, LIKE ALL THE SCHOOLS? >> WE ARE LOOKING TO PILOT A NEW MATH PROGRAM. WELL, WE'RE NOT LOOKING. WE ARE PILOTING A NEW MATH PROGRAM. IN TWO OF OUR SCHOOLS CURRENTLY, WE'RE USING ILLUSTRATIVE MATH AND THE REST OF THE REMAINING OF THE SCHOOLS ARE ENVISIONED, BUT AS WE MOVE INTO NEXT YEAR, WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER SCHOOLS WHO WANT TO JUMP ON BOARD WITH THAT PILOT BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN SUCH WONDERFUL RESULTS FROM THE ILLUSTRATIVE MATH. DR. LAWSON IS WORKING CURRENTLY IN BOTH AN ILLUSTRATIVE MATH CLASSROOM AND AN ENVISION MATH PROGRAM, AND THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT COVERS TONS WITH THOSE PROGRAMS. >> BECAUSE I KNOW ALL THE SCHOOLS AREN'T MOVING TO THE NEW ILLUSTRATIVE NEXT YEAR. IT COVERS EVERYTHING WE NEED IN TERMS OF ALL THE SCHOOLS THAT WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN IT? >> YES, IT IS RECURRENT, DR. JOHNSON? [01:45:01] >> IT IS. >> IT IS. >> DID EVERY YEAR COST? >> GOT IT. THE STATE HAS A NEW DRAFT MATH POLICY, I GUESS, DOES THAT COME WITH ANY FISCAL NOTES THAT WE ENVISION HAVING TO? >> I WILL SAY NO. >> I THINK THE EXPECTATION WOULD BE THAT WE PAY FOR WHAT WE DECIDE ON. I THINK THE BIGGEST ISSUE RIGHT NOW, AND EITHER DR. HAMMER OR DR. JOHNSON JUMP IN, IS THAT I GUESS THE STATE IS INSISTENT THAT WE SELECT HQMI, HIGH QUALITY. >> INSTRUCTIONAL. >> INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS, IM. AND BOTH OF THESE PACKAGES ARE IN VISION AND IM ARE BOTH CONSIDERED HIGH QUALITY. >> WE'RE COVERED IN? >> I THINK SO. >> IF WE'VE MOVED TO ENVISION OR THE MATH, THE NEW MATH CURRICULUM. >> WE WILL LIKELY MOVE TO ILLUSTRATIVE MATHEMATICS. IM. >> IF YOU'VE SEEN THAT IT'S REALLY GREAT, WHY AREN'T WE DOING IT IN ALL THE SCHOOLS? >> BASED ON THE NUMBERS WE SAW LAST YEAR, WE BROUGHT IN 17 ELEMENTARY PRINCIPALS, WITH A MATH TEACHER FROM EACH AND WE DID THIS ABOUT MAYBE SIX WEEKS AGO, TWO MONTHS AGO, AND WE SHARED WHAT THE PACKAGES WERE, AND WE ASKED TO SEE WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SWITCHING. I WANT TO SAY 13, DR. JOHNSON. >>TWELVE. >> TWELVE OF THE 17 HAVE CHOSE TO GO TO IM, AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, THEN WE WILL HAVE LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS TO MEASURE THIS AGAINST THIS. MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT FORCING IT THIS YEAR WAS THAT THE TWO PILOT SCHOOLS WERE CECILTON AND LEEDS. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY NEITHER ARE THE TOP TWO OR THREE POOR SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTY. WE HAVE SOME EXTREMELY HIGH RATES OF POVERTY, AND SO I WASN'T READY AT THAT POINT TO MAKE THAT MOVE. SO THIS YEAR WE'RE COMING INTO, WE'LL SEE ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF OUR SCHOOLS, INCLUDING LARGE TITLE 1 SCHOOLS, AND WE'LL HAVE A REAL ROBUST SET OF INFORMATION TO COMPARE THE TWO. >> WELL, WHAT I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT THE MATH PROGRAMMING, THE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES WITH IT IS VERY CHALLENGING. THE ENVISION PROGRAM IS VERY LOCKSTEP. FOR NEWER TEACHERS, IT'S A REALLY GREAT WAY TO FOLLOW THAT PROGRAM AND KNOW WHAT IT TEACHES YOU MATH AT THE SAME TIME THAT YOU'RE TEACHING THE STUDENTS MATH. IT HELPS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S LEVEL SETTING. THE IM IS VERY PROJECT BASED LEARNING. IT'S A DIFFERENT WAY TO APPROACH LEARNING AND WHEN YOU HAVE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE MORE NEW TEACHERS IN IT, IT'S PROBABLY BETTER, AND THAT'S WHAT WE FOUND THAT THOSE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE MORE NEWER TEACHERS IN IT, IT'S BETTER TO GO WITH ENVISION RIGHT NOW UNTIL THEY CAN GET TRAINED IN THE PROCESS OF MATH. WE DO HAVE LINE ITEMS FOR SOME PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT WITH THE ONBOARDING OF THESE OF THE NEW PROGRAM, HOWEVER. >> YEAH, THAT'S. PERFECT. THANK YOU. >> I THINK WE'RE AT ELA SECONDARY. WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN ELA SECONDARY, YOU'LL SEE SUBSTITUTES AGAIN FOR CONTENT SUPPORT MEETINGS THAT HAPPEN QUARTERLY AND REPLACEMENT BOOKS, YOU'LL SEE ALSO FOR OUR BLENDED VIRTUAL PROGRAM. THAT'S ABOUT IT. AGAIN, WHAT I'LL REINFORCE IS THAT MANY OF OUR COORDINATORS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME TIME OVER THE SUMMER TO DO REFRESH OF THEIR CURRICULUM, BUT WE'RE JUST NOT WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. OUR ART IS VERY MEAGER AS WELL. YOU'LL SEE THE BUDGET IS VERY SMALL, AND IT'S JUST BASICALLY FOR SUBSTITUTES TO PREPARE FOR ALL COUNTY ART DISPLAYS, AS WELL AS EQUIPMENT REPAIR, IN CASE SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN TO EQUIPMENT. >> I THINK THIS ALSO REFLECTS SOME OF THE BROADER CONCERNS WITH THE BLUEPRINT IN THAT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TSI, OR IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JOB COACHES, COLLEGE CAREER READY, PRE K, THERE'S REVENUE. THERE IS REVENUE. IT'S GOT STRINGS, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO. BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ART, MUSIC, NOT SO MUCH. I'VE EXPRESSED THOSE CONCERNS BEFORE AND I'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO. >> OUR MUSIC SHOWS AN INCREASE, AND I'LL EXPLAIN IN A MOMENT. FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE NEGOTIATED A CONCERT PAY SO THAT TEACHERS WHO ARE COVERING OUR CONCERTS WILL RECEIVE A STIPEND. WE ALSO HAVE SUBS FOR ALL COUNTY AUDITIONS AND REHEARSALS AND SUPPORT TO HELP OUR NEW ONBOARDING TEACHERS FROM VETERAN TEACHERS TO COME IN AND HELP SUPPORT THEM WITH THEIR NEW INSTRUCTION, OR SHADOWING, ETC. THERE'S A SALARY FOR SOLO AND ENSEMBLE. WE JUST HAD THAT LAST WEEK. OVER THE YEAR, WE'VE HAD ALMOST 700 STUDENTS PARTICIPATE IN THAT, WHICH IS REALLY EXCITING. I FLIPPED OVER TO PAGE 39. WE ALSO HAVE SUPPLIES FOR ALL COUNTY MUSIC THAT YOU'LL SEE LISTED THERE. THE BIG INCREASE COMES FROM OUR QUAVER ONLINE MUSIC CURRICULUM. YOU'LL SEE THAT AT THE LINE NOTE OF $69,000, AND THAT IS A RENEWAL OF THE QUAVER THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN PICKED UP BY ESSER, AND WE HAVE TO BRING THAT BACK INTO THE BUDGET LINE. THESE ARE SOME ONLINE RESOURCES FOR MUSIC EDUCATION ACROSS THE DISTRICT. [01:50:03] WE DO ALSO, YOU'LL SEE A COUPLE OF NOTES AT THE TOP FOR CONTRACTED SERVICES BAND UNIFORM CLEANING, AND THEN DOWN TOWARDS THE BOTTOM, TRANSPORTATION, FOR BAND COMPETITIONS, AND ALL COUNTY EVENTS THAT WE HAVE. THERE'S ALSO A LINE FOR REPAIR OF MUSIC EQUIPMENT, IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN. MOVING ON TO PERSONAL WELLNESS. JUST A $600 LINE ITEM FOR PROFESSIONAL DAY CLINICIANS TO COME IN AND HELP SUPPORT TEACHER PROFESSIONAL LEARNING ON OUR PROFESSIONAL LEARNING DAYS. OUR WORLD LANGUAGES, WE ONLY HAVE LINE ITEMS THERE FOR SEAL OF BILITERACY ASSESSMENT, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT STUDENTS CAN EARN IN HIGH SCHOOL, THAT THEY ARE BILITERATE BY TAKING THAT ASSESSMENT, AND THEN WE HAVE SOME AWARDS THAT GO WITH THAT. MULTILINGUAL LEARNERS, AS DR. LAWSON SAID THERE ARE FUNDS FOR THIS. THERE ARE SEVERAL IDENTIFICATION OR THINGS HERE, SUMMER DAYS IN THE SUMMER TO HELP SUPPORT CURRICULUM DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR STUDENTS. THERE'S SUPPLIES AND ALSO SUPPLIES AND RESOURCES FOR NEWCOMERS. THERE'S AN IT REFRESH THERE. YOU'LL SEE FOR LAPTOPS. THEN TRANSLATION SERVICES. AT ASTRA IS ONE OF OUR TRANSLATION SERVICES. MOVING OVER TO PAGE 40, YOU'LL SEE THERE IS A CONTRACT FOR OUTSIDE INTERPRETERS, LANGUAGE LINE, AND TALKING POINTS. THESE ARE ALL RESOURCES THAT WE USE TO TRANSLATE EITHER PRINT OR WRITTEN OR FACE TO FACE. WE HAVE SOME SOFTWARE FOR AIRSLATE, IS LIKE THAT DOCUSIGN, LIKE I EXPLAINED EARLIER, AND ELEVATION IS A TOOL THAT WE USE FOR ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNER CURRICULUM AND RAZ KIDS FOR ELL AS WELL. TEACHER MILEAGE AND STUDENT ENRICHMENT ARE THERE AS WELL. SCIENCE BUDGET, AGAIN, IS VERY SMALL. HE DOES HAVE IN THAT SCIENCE BUDGET, TEACHERS HELPING TO WORK WITH OTHER TEACHERS TO HELP SUPPORT CONTENT AND HELPING THEM UNDERSTAND THE SCIENCE CONCEPTS. HE ALSO HAS THE SCIENCE KITS TO BE ABLE TO RESTOCK THE SCIENCE KITS THAT WE USE IN OUR ELEMENTARY GRADES. ONE THING YOU WILL SEE HERE IS THE FAIR HILL ADMISSION FEES ARE AN INCREASE. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION IN A MOMENT IN A LITTLE WHILE ABOUT NORTH BAY, BUT FAIR HILL NATURE CENTER SUPPORTS GRADES K-5 ACROSS AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR, THEY COME IN. WE HAVE INCREASED THE AMOUNTS FOR FAIR HILL NATURE CENTER, BUT THEY'RE ALSO ENGAGING IN GRANT WORK AS WELL TO TRY TO SUPPORT THAT FUNDING. FAIR HILL NATURE CENTER COMES OUT TO ABOUT $18 A STUDENT. WITH PARENTS DO PROVIDE SOME SUPPORT FOR TRANSPORTATION IF THEIR SCHOOLS CANNOT. STEM IS VERY SIMPLE. >> HOW MUCH IS FAIR HILL? >> FAIR HILL, YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE IT 110. FOR THEIR K-5 PROGRAMMING. >> GOT YOU. >> STEM IS FOR THE GALLERY WALK THAT WE CELEBRATE STUDENT WORK IN MAY OF EVERY YEAR, AS WELL AS THE MIDDLE SCHOOL ROBOTICS PROGRAM FOR NOT ONLY THE PARTS AND SUPPLIES, BUT ALSO THE COMPETITION FEES FOR A MIDDLE SCHOOL ROBOTICS PROGRAM. SOCIAL STUDIES, ALL SOCIAL STUDIES, USED TO HAVE A VERY LARGE BUDGET AND THEY'RE DOWN TO 3,600 NOW. AND THAT SIMPLY COVERS JUNIOR SCHOLASTIC MAGAZINES FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS THAT ARE PART OF OUR CURRICULUM. HEALTH EDUCATION PLAYS FOR SERVICE LEARNING PRINTED FOLDERS, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT OF COMR. HE PHYSICAL EDUCATION, THERE'S SOME SUPPLIES FOR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE ONE INCREASE YOU'LL SEE HERE IS THE MCGRAW HILL DIGITAL VERSION, AND THAT SUPPORTS CURRICULUM ACROSS OUR SCHOOLS FOR HEALTH, AND IT'S IN SOFTWARE FORM. OVER TO PAGE 41, WE HAVE EQUIPMENT FITNESS REPAIRS. >> IT CLOSES OUT THE PHYSICAL EDUCATION LINE. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ABOUT A $70,000 INCREASE IN ATHLETICS. AS I GO THROUGH THE LINES, YOU'LL SEE WHERE THAT COMES IN. THE ATHLETICS LINES COVER MIDDLE SCHOOL SPORTS TO HAVE ADMINISTRATORS AT THOSE EVENTS. IT ALSO COVERS THE EPED, WHICH IS THE EXTRA PAY FOR EXTRA DUTY COACHING SALARIES OR STIPENDS, AS WELL AS THE MIDDLE SCHOOL COACHING STIPENDS. THERE'S FUNDS THERE FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL ATHLETIC DIRECTOR MEETINGS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT REQUIRE A SUBSTITUTE TO COVER. GAME MANAGEMENT. THAT IS FOR HIGH SCHOOL GAME MANAGEMENT, WE PAY FOLKS TO DO TICKETS AND ALSO RUN CLOCKS, ETC, FOR THOSE EVENTS THAT TAKE PLACE. >> DOES THAT INCLUDE THE OFFICERS THAT WE'LL NEED WHEN WE HAVE OUR- >> AS YOU MOVE DOWN? YEAH, THAT COMES UNDER CONTRACTED SERVICE. >> THERE IT IS. >> IT'S THERE. >> THANK YOU. >> IT'S THERE. UNDER COUNTY SUPPLIES, YOU'LL SEE, WE HAVE AED CARS HELMET REPLACEMENTS FOR FOOTBALL AND LACROSSE, RULES BOOKS, AND SUPPLIES FOR BOTH THE MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL PROGRAMS. [01:55:05] THERE IT IS UNDER CONTRACTED SERVICES, AND THIS IS WHERE MOST OF THAT INCREASE COMES FROM IN ATHLETICS. THE AIT ATHLETIC TRAINER FEES HAVE INCREASED, AND THEN POLICE COVERAGE HAS INCREASED AS WELL. WE RECEIVED THAT INFORMATION FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, AS THEY'RE HELPING US TO SUPPORT THESE EVENTS. >> WE STILL HAVE AN ATHLETIC TRAINER FOR EVERY HIGH SCHOOL? >> THAT'S THE GOAL. >> DOES THE WEAPONS DETECTION SYSTEM FALL UNDER THAT AS WELL? OR IS THAT A DIFFERENT AREA? >> IT IS A DIFFERENT AREA, BUT WE DO HAVE THE POLICE COVERAGE WHEN THE WEAPONS DETECTION SYSTEMS ARE IN OPERATION. >> BUT THE SYSTEM THEMSELVES WAS A ONE-TIME PURCHASE. >> WE MADE IT ALMOST TO THE END OF EDUCATION SERVICES. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. AS WE MOVE INTO DEPARTMENT OF OFFICE OF FINANCE NEAR THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 41. WE DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO CATEGORY 09 OBJECT 0531, THE MAY AUTO INSURANCE THERE, YOU'LL SEE A REDUCTION OF 10,612. WE REDUCED OUR FLEET OF LEASE VEHICLES. THEREFORE, THERE'S A REDUCTION IN THAT INSURANCE. HOWEVER, UNDER THE NEXT UNDER OPERATION OF PLANT 0546, YOU WILL SEE AN INCREASE WITH MAY PROPERTY INSURANCE, AND THESE ARE THE INSURANCE RATES THAT WE PAY TO MAY FOR THOSE PURPOSES. AGAIN, A SLIGHT INCREASE UNDER CATEGORY 11 MAINTENANCE OF PLANT WITH INSURANCE, MAY AUTO INSURANCE, SLIGHT UPTICK THERE AS WELL. AT THE TOP OF PAGE 42, UNDER BUSINESS SERVICES. ACTUALLY, BUSINESS SERVICES IS LISTED ON THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 41, BUT ALL THE OBJECTS ARE LISTED ON PAGE 42, A DECREASE IN CONTRACTED SERVICES OF $28,742 OVERALL. BUT YOU'LL SEE WITHIN THOSE CONTRACTED SERVICES, ATTORNEY FEES, CHECK SEALER, COPY OR CLICK. THE COPY OR CLICK, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT COME UP UNDERNEATH MULTIPLE CATEGORIES AS WE KEEP GOING THROUGH THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION. EVERY TIME WE MAKE A PRINT COPY, THERE IS A CHARGE FOR THAT. IF IT IS ON A COLOR COPIER, THERE'S A CERTAIN RATE. IF THERE'S A BLACK AND WHITE COPIER, THERE'S A DIFFERENT RATE. IT DEPENDS UPON WHICH COPIER WE'RE USING. THE E-RATE ELITE SERVICES. BASICALLY, THAT PAYS FOR OUR MEMBERSHIP FEE BECAUSE AS WE PURCHASE TECHNOLOGIES AND WE USE THE PUBLIC UTILITIES, WE GET E-RATE REBATES AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO APPLY THOSE E-RATE DOLLARS TOWARDS TECHNOLOGY SERVICES AND FEES, BUT THIS IS WHERE WE PAY FOR THAT ACCESS. IRON MOUNTAIN IS SHREDDING. THE KEV/ SCHOOL CASH IS ALL OF OUR SCHOOL CASH ONLINE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE FOR ALL OF OUR PARENTS TO UTILIZE. OPEN GOV ALLOWS US TO UPLOAD OUR CONTRACTS IN THE OPEN GOV FORMAT, AND THEN THE RED FLAG REPORTING IS OUR FRAUD ALERT SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE THERE. THE REST OF THOSE OBJECTS, A SLIGHT DECREASE OR SLIGHT UPTICK IN MEMBERSHIPS, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE VARIOUS MEMBERSHIPS THAT OUR BUSINESS SERVICES, PARTICULARLY OFFICE OF FINANCE ARE ASSOCIATED WITH, AS WELL AS THE DIFFERENT PUBLICATIONS AND SUBSCRIPTIONS. NEXT WOULD BE PURCHASING, A NET DECREASE HERE IN THE AREA OF PURCHASING. AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE THAT UNDER 0208, CONTRACTED SERVICES, THE COPIER USAGE PRINT CHARGES AND THE PRINT CHARGE THERE. THIS IS WHERE OUR POSTAGE IS CAPTURED FOR THE SYSTEM. YOU'LL SEE THAT'S AT $90,000. SENSITIVE ITEMS. AGAIN, NONE FOR THIS COMING YEAR, EQUIPMENT LEASE, COPIER LEASE, POSTAGE MACHINE LEASE, WE DO LEASE THOSE. YOU'RE GOING TO START TO SEE THOSE REPLICATE AS WE GO THROUGH THE NEXT CATEGORIES. 02 INSTRUCTION, OUR COPY OR CLICK CHARGES, OUR COPY OR LEASE, CONTINUING INTO 06 SPECIAL EDUCATION, COPY OR CLICK CHARGE, COPY OR LEASE, THE SAME INTO STUDENT PERSONNEL SERVICES. THOSE EXPENSES FOR EACH OF THOSE AREAS OF OUR OPERATION ARE CAPTURED AND BUDGETED UNDER THEIR RESPECTIVE TITLES. YOU'LL JUST SEE A REPEAT THERE AS YOU GO ON TO THE TOP OF PAGE 43. THE COPIER CLICK CHARGE, THE COPIER LEASE, THE VEHICLE LEASE, FOR STUDENT TRANSPORTATION. AGAIN, THE SAME THING FOR MAINTENANCE OF PLANT, AND THOSE ARE RELATIVELY UNCHANGED OVER TIME, A SLIGHT DECREASE HERE AND THERE. THE NEXT WOULD BE THE DEPARTMENT OF UTILITIES, 50,300 NEAR THE TOP OF PAGE 43. THIS IS WHERE AGAIN, WE CAPTURE THE OPERATIONAL PLANT. YOU CAN SEE OUR ELECTRICITY FUEL, PROPANE NATURAL GAS WATER AND SEWER RATES THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT FOR NEXT YEAR. I'LL REMIND THE BOARD WE SPOKE AT OUR LAST BOARD MEETING. [02:00:01] WE HAVE SET A BUDGET LINE ITEM FOR ELECTRICITY. HOWEVER, WE ARE ANTICIPATING A RATE INCREASE IN JANUARY OF 2026. WE INITIALLY HAD INTERPRETED THAT AND FELT THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE APPLICABLE IN FY 27 AS WE MOVED FORWARD, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE EFFECT JANUARY OF 26 AS OPPOSED TO JULY OF 26. WE WILL HAVE A RATE INCREASE SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE THERE. >> WE NEED TO CHANGE THE BUDGETED AMOUNT. >> YES, WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO. BUT AT THE TIME THAT WE DEVELOPED THIS, WE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE CHANGE WOULD OCCUR IN 26, BUT WE HAD ALREADY PREPARED THE PRESENTATION FOR YOU AND DIDN'T WANT TO CHANGE IT 4%. >> HAVE WE BEEN APPROACHED OR THOUGHT OF SOLAR FOR OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS AT ALL? I KNOW THERE'S MONEY AVAILABLE FOR IT, BUT- >> WELL, WE HAVE CURRENTLY THE SCHOOL TECHNOLOGY, WE HAVE THE LEAD SITE AS WELL AS BAYVIEW. I KNOW AT ONE POINT, MR. WILLS'S POSITION WAS THAT ABOUT A-THIRD OF OUR ELECTRIC COSTS ARE OFFSET BY THE SOLAR, SO WE'VE BEEN AGGRESSIVE WITH THAT, WITH SOMETHING WE COULD CONTINUE TO PURSUE. AS THAT WHOLE FIELD THERE. >> AS DOES BAYVIEW AND LEADS. >> WE'RE PART OF THE ESMC ENERGY CONSORTIUM. OUR ELECTRIC PRICING IS WHAT IT IS BECAUSE WE PARTNER WITH COUNTIES AND SCHOOL SYSTEMS ON THE EASTERN SHORE. BUT THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE FOR THAT AS A WHOLE FOR ESMC IS WHAT'S CHANGING AND IT'S THE COST OF THE ELECTRIC DELIVERY THAT WILL BE GOING UP FOR EVERYBODY IN THAT CONSORTIUM. >> GOT IT. THANK YOU. >> THE COST OF KILOWATT HOUR IS NOT NECESSARILY A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE, BUT IT'S THE DELIVERY. IT WILL BE THE DELIVERY THAT WILL GO UP. THE AREA OF STUDENT TRANSPORTATION, AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE AN INCREASE HERE YEAR TO YEAR. BASICALLY, THAT'S TO ADDRESS THE CONTRACTED SERVICES THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR BUS CONTRACTORS, WHICH IS WHERE WE PAY OUR PER VEHICLE ALLOTMENT. ANY NEW BUSES THAT THEY WOULD PURCHASE. THEN AT THE BOTTOM THERE OF THAT CATEGORY, YOU WILL SEE THE REPLACEMENT OF BUS 112, AND THAT'S $167,000. WITHIN THERE AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE OUR BUS CONTRACTS, PHYSICAL EXAMS. WE HAVE TO PAY FOR OUR DRIVERS AND OUR AIDES TO RECEIVE PHYSICAL EXAMS. SOME OF OUR REPAIRS, OUR MECHANIC IS ABLE TO REPAIR SOME OF THE WORK ON OUR BUSES. THERE ARE SOME THAT WE HAVE TO FARM OUT. WE HAVE TO CONTRACT THOSE MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS IN TERMS OF OUR BUSES OUT TO OTHERS. MEETINGS AND CONFERENCES, A FEW DOLLARS HERE, AS WELL AS MEMBERSHIPS. THEN WE MOVE INTO THE OPERATION OF THE PLANT AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 43, AND YEAR TO YEAR, THOSE ARE ALL THAT'S GOING TO BE FLAT. AS WE MOVE TO THE TOP. YOU CAN SEE THERE AGAIN, OUR TRASH REMOVAL, FUEL OIL CONTROLS, HAZMAT REMOVAL, GAS, ALL TIRES, BATTERY, SO FORTH. ALL OF THOSE UNDER THAT AREA ARE GOING TO BE FLAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THE TOP OF PAGE 44, YOU WILL SEE THERE, AGAIN, WE HAVE A MOWER THAT'S BUDGETED FOR NEXT YEAR. WHAT WE TRY TO DO AS OUR MOWERS WITHIN OUR BUILDING START TO AGE OUT. WE TRY TO UPGRADE AND GIVE THEM A MORE UNIVERSAL MOWER, IF YOU WILL, THAT WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO BE USED IN SNOW REMOVAL AND OTHER SERVICES OTHER THAN JUST MOWING. UNDER MAINTENANCE OF PLANT, 60,300. AGAIN, RELATIVELY FLAT, AS WE GO THROUGH THERE, YOU'LL SEE SOME CONTRACTED SERVICES, LEASED VEHICLE EXPENSES, MAINTENANCE ESSENTIALS PROGRAM. AGAIN, PHYSICAL EXAMS FOR OUR PERSONNEL, UNIFORM RENTALS, EQUIPMENT LEASE. ELECTRICAL SERVICES, AGAIN, WILL BE FLAT. HVAC SERVICES WILL BE FLAT. THIS AGAIN, IS JUST THE WORK THAT WE DO INTERNALLY BY OUR CREW, BY OUR STAFF. THEY GO OUT, THEY MANAGE WORK ORDERS COME IN, THEY GO OUT, THEY DO PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE OUT OF THESE OFFICES AS WELL OUT OF THESE DEPARTMENTS. AGAIN, UNDER SAFETY SERVICES, FLAT CARPENTRY, WHAT YOU WILL NOTE HERE IN CARPENTRY IS AN INCREASE OF $40. WHAT YOU WILL SEE ON THE SUBSEQUENT LINE ITEMS OUT OF CAPITAL OUTLAY, YOU'LL SEE A $40,000 DECREASE. WE HAD A SET ASIDE OF $40,000 THAT WAS ALWAYS WITHIN CAPITAL OUTLAY TO ADDRESS ANY FLOORING, CARPET ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE WOULD NOTE AS WE WOULD GO IN AND OUT OF OUR BUILDINGS. WE FELT THAT THAT MORE APPROPRIATELY ALIGNED OUT OF CARPENTRY, SO WE SWITCHED IT. WHERE YOU SEE AN INCREASE OF 40,000 HERE, WHEN WE GET TO CAPITAL OUTLAY, YOU WILL SEE A $40,000 INCREASE. OUR GROUNDS AND MAINTENANCE ON THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 44. THEN WHEN YOU GET TO THE TOP OF PAGE 45, YOU'LL SEE THE REPLACEMENT OF A KUBOTA TRACTOR. AGAIN, THAT'S AN AGING TRACTOR. IT HAS HAD SOME WEATHER EXPOSURE, IT HAS HAD SOME SALT EXPOSURE. IT'S JUST HARD TO MAINTAIN A TRACTOR BEYOND 10, 15 YEARS IN THE ELEMENTS AND SUCH. [02:05:01] AGAIN, IT'S MULTI-FACETED TRACTOR WITH MULTIPLE USES THROUGHOUT OUR SYSTEM. I THINK IT'S OVER. >> THE NEXT PART IS FIXED CHARGES, AND THESE ARE ALL THE COSTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH OUR FULL TIME EMPLOYEES WITH OUR FTES. YOU CAN SEE A LINE FOR AWARDS, WHICH IS PERFECT ATTENDANCE AWARDS FOR THOSE WHO QUALIFY. YOU CAN SEE THE ADMIN FEE FOR OUR PENSIONS. TUITION FOR TEACHERS. YOU CAN SEE THAT'S ALSO BROKEN DOWN BETWEEN NBC CERTIFICATION COSTS AND TUITION REIMBURSEMENT. BECAUSE WITH THE STIPENDS FOR NBCS, THERE'S AN UPTICK AND PEOPLE SEEKING NBC CERTIFICATION. TUITION IS BROKEN DOWN BETWEEN ANS, SUPPORT STAFF, AND TEACHERS. THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT NEGOTIATING GROUPS WHO HAVE NEGOTIATIONS FOR TUITION REIMBURSEMENT. THOSE LINES ARE FOR THAT. WE HAVE GENERAL LIABILITY INSURANCE. YOU CAN SEE A SLIGHT UPTICK THERE. HEALTH CARE OPT OUT. THAT IS FOR EMPLOYEES WHO OPT ONTO THEIR SPOUSE'S OR PARENT'S INSURANCE AND DO NOT CARRY OUR INSURANCE AND THEY GET AN OPT OUT AMOUNT. THIS IS OUR ACTIVE HEALTH CARE LINE, AND WE ESTIMATED ABOUT A 10% INCREASE. FROM FY 24 TO FY 25, OUR HEALTHCARE CONSULTANT, WILLIS TOWER WATSON, WE HAD TO INCREASE OUR BUDGET BY 20%. WE DON'T HAVE AN ESTIMATE FROM THEM YET. WE DON'T HAVE THE ACTUARIAL RESULT, SO WE'RE ESTIMATING A 10% INCREASE GOING INTO 26, WHICH IS WHAT WE BUDGETED HERE. THEN YOU CAN SEE SOME GENERIC THINGS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE, SO EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE, FLEXIBLE SPENDING, WELLNESS PROGRAMS, THOSE ARE ALL BENEFITS THAT OUR EMPLOYEES CARRY THAT HAVE A PER EMPLOYEE COST. WORKERS' COMP INSURANCE, RETIREE HEALTHCARE LINE. THERE'S RETIREMENT SYSTEMS FOR EMPLOYEES AND RETIREMENT SYSTEMS FOR TEACHERS. YOU CAN SEE A 1.8 NUMBER FOR EMPLOYEES AND A 6.9 NUMBER FOR TEACHERS. >> WHAT IS THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM? >> PENSION. IT'S OUR PART OF THE PENSION PLAN. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE LEGISLATION THAT WOULD REVERT ANOTHER 1.2-1.5 MILLION OF THE STATES RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE PENSIONS TO THE LOCAL LEVEL. THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE COST OF HIRING. >> LET ME INTERRUPT YOU THERE BECAUSE TO BE HONEST, THERE'S NO SENSE IN TRYING TO PULL UNDER THE TABLE STUFF, IT WOULD REALLY BE THE COUNTY'S PREROGATIVE TO SAY, WE'RE GIVING YOU THIS MUCH MONEY, AND BY THE WAY, YOU OWN THE PENSION INCREASE. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? OR THEY COULD SAY, HERE'S THE MONEY. WE'RE COVERING THE PENSION INCREASE ON YOUR BEHALF. >> IF THEY MADE US PUT IT AND US CARRY IT, WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT IT IN OUR OPERATING BUDGET. WHEREAS IF THEY DECIDED TO DO IT, IT WOULDN'T GO INTO OUR OPERATING BUDGET. IT WOULD BE SEPARATE. >> I HAD HEARD THAT THEY WOULD BE BILLED DIRECTLY. A LONG TIME AGO WHEN WE STARTED TO ASSUME SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR PENSIONS, IT WAS ACTUALLY PAID BY THE COUNTY AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT IT DIDN'T INCREASE THEIR MOE NUMBER FOR US. IT WAS A NUMBER PAID SEPARATELY FROM THAT. I'M HEARING THAT THIS WILL BE TREATED THE SAME WAY, THAT IT WOULD NOT WHATEVER THEY GIVE US TOWARD THIS DOESN'T COUNT TOWARD MOE THE FOLLOWING YEAR, IT'S A SEPARATE NUMBER. >> IS THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT CONSIDERED NECESSARILY REOCCURRING EXPENSE YET? >> IT'S A RECURRING EXPENSE, BUT I THINK THAT THEY'RE TRYING NOT TO DING THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY DINGING THEM BY HAVING THEM PAY FOR THAT EXPENSE, BUT IT'S NOT COUNTING TOWARD MOE AS FAR AS A PER STUDENT EXPENSE. >> IF IT COMES TO US FROM THE STATE, WE EXPECT TO STAY THAT WAY INDEFINITELY. ONCE IT GETS HERE. >> THAT WOULD BE MY PREDICTION. >> YES. I AGREE. >> OKAY. >> NEXT AREA, WE'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS CAPITAL OUTLAY. AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE THE NET DECREASE OF 40,000. WE ALWAYS CARRY ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING SERVICES HERE, A LINE ITEM FOR THAT SO THAT WHEN WE HAVE SMALL-CAP PROJECTS AND OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO PUT OUT TO BID, WE ARE ABLE TO SEND THOSE OUT FOR AN ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEERING FIRM SO THAT WE GET ACCURATE DRAWINGS SO THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING OUT FOR BID. OTHER THAN THAT, THERE'S REALLY NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN HERE. AGAIN, CIP CONTRACTS, ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEERING SUPPLIES, SOME MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENT. THAT'S IT FOR CAPITAL OUTLET. >> THIS MIGHT BE A LOADED QUESTION OR MAYBE IT'S A TWO PART QUESTION. THE COUNTY IS AGREEING TO DO SOME SMALL-CAP PROJECTS COMING DOWN THE PIKE SOON, [02:10:06] WHICH IS A FIRST FOR US IN TERMS OF HAVING MORE INCREASED SMALL-CAP PROJECTS TO DO. DO WE HAVE ENOUGH STAFF MAINTENANCE STAFF, ALL OF THE INTERNAL RESOURCES TO SUPPORT SMALL-CAP PROJECTS AS THEY'RE INCREASING? >> I THINK IT'S TWOFOLD. IF IT'S A SMALL-CAP PROJECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN IN HOUSE. I THINK WE HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. BUT I THINK SOME OF THESE, THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT'S WITH A LOT OF THESE SMALL-CAP PROJECTS THAT YOU'LL SEE ON OUR LIST WOULD BE CONTRACTED OUT. IT'S A LITTLE OF BOTH. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TACKLE ALL OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE WE'D HAVE TO PARSE THEM OUT SO THAT WE HAVE THE WORKFORCE TO. >> BUT WE HAVE THE STAFF ABLE TO BE THE OVERSIGHT STAFF. [OVERLAPPING] >> AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, IF YOU LOOK AT THE 1.7 MILLION DOLLAR THE COUNTY'S CONSIDERING RIGHT NOW, I THINK THEY MAY VOTE ON THAT TOMORROW NIGHT. >> I THINK IT'S TONIGHT. >> OR IS IT TONIGHT. >> TODAY'S TUESDAY. TONIGHT. >> TONIGHT, YEAH. >> YEAH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME PAVING PROJECTS, SOME CHILLERS. I THINK OUR CAPABILITY. IF YOU THINK ABOUT TWO SUMMERS AGO, WE HAVE THREE SAFE AND SECURE ENTRANCES HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME. BUT TO DR. BUCKLEY'S POINT, I THINK THE LARGER THE PROJECT, THE MORE LIKELY IT IS IS THAT THE CONTRACTOR WILL HAVE PEOPLE ON SITE TO SUPERVISE AS WELL. BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP AN EYE ON. >> I KNOW OUR MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT IS BAREBONES. AS WE START LOOKING AT ADDING MORE SMALL-CAP PROJECTS, AND I KNOW THE COUNTY IS INTERESTED IN DOING THAT AND MAINTAINING COUNTY FACILITIES, WE'RE STILL OVERLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OVERSIGHT AND HOW TO START. >> THERE'S A LOG OF PROJECTS. >> THERE'S A DEFINITE BACKLOG. IT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP AN EYE ON. I GUESS. >> THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER SMALLER PROJECTS THAT WILL COME THROUGH OUR WORK ORDER FORMAT. FOR BUILDING ENHANCEMENTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WHERE OUR CREWS CAN HANDLE, ELECTRICAL SERVICES PLUMBING, CARPENTRY, WHERE OUR FOLKS ARE ABLE TO GO IN AND DO THAT. WE RECENTLY REDID THE ENTRANCE TO THE PROVIDENCE SCHOOL, AND THAT WAS HANDLED IN HOUSE BY OUR STAFF. THEY WERE ABLE TO GO IN AND RECONFIGURE THAT. IT WAS A VERY LOW COST PROJECT. HOWEVER, IT SCRATCHED A BIG INCH FOR THAT SCHOOL TO PROVIDE A SECURE ENTRANCE. >> WE HAVE SOME REALLY TALENTED CRAFTSMEN ON OUR STAFF. >> WE DO. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> WE DO, BUT WE ALSO, OR THEY'RE GONE. >> BUT YOU'RE PUT FOR SUPERVISING YET. >> WE STRETCH THEM THINGS. >> WELL, THAT'S LIKE HEADS START FOR THE NEW SCHOOL. >> WHILE WE'RE ON SMALL-CAP. JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, COULD WE ASK FOR THE KUBOTA TO BE THE TRACTOR TO BE PAID FOR OUT OF SMALL-CAP? >> MS. OP AND I HAD SOME PRETTY EXTENSIVE CONVERSATION WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT MONTH OR SO AGO ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE CALLED A NON RECURRING COST, SAFETY AND NEW PROGRAMS. BY AND LARGE, WHEN YOU ASK FOR THOSE, IT'S MUCH MORE LIKELY LAND IN THE NON RECURRING IN THE STATE'S EYES, THE COUNTY SUPPORTING US FOR THE RUDIMENTARY FUNCTION OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, THE KUBOTAS OF THE WORLD, THEY FALL INTO THAT. IN MY OPINION, THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, IT WOULD NOT BE COVERED AS A NON RECURRING. >> WE HAVE THE SAME QUESTION COME UP FROM A CAC MEMBER ASKING IF OUR TECHNOLOGY WHEN WE NEED TO REFRESH COMPUTERS. THAT HAPPENS EVERY 2-3 YEARS WE DO A FULL REFRESH. CAN WE MAKE THAT NON RECUR THAT VERY QUESTION, AND WHAT THEY WILL LOOK AT IS THEY WILL LOOK AT THE HISTORIC FUNDING OF YOUR TECHNOLOGY SPENDING. IF HISTORICALLY WE'VE SPENT 2.1 MILLION DOLLAR AND THIS YEAR, YOU COME UP WITH A 3.1 MILLION AS THE COUNTY MAY BE ABLE TO MAKE THE CASE TO TAKE THAT MILLION AND HAVE THAT AS NON RECURRING. BUT YOU CAN ASK FOR 2.1 AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, THIS YEAR, SAY, WE WANT HALF OF THAT TO BE NON RECURRING, THE STATE'S POSITION WOULD BE NO. YOU'VE ALWAYS SPENT THAT, YOU NEED TO CONTINUE. THE MAINTENANCE OF EFFORT REALLY IS A NOTION IN THE EYES OF STATE FUNDING THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE A DECREASE. TO COUNT IT AS NON RECURRING, THEY SCRUTINIZED QUITE A BIT. I WAS SURPRISED TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. BUT WE GOT A LOT OF CLARIFICATION ON THAT. I GUESS IT WAS BACK IN DECEMBER RIGHT BEFORE THE HOLIDAY BREAK. >> IS IF WE HAD A DISASTER, LET'S SAY, WHEREVER WE HOUSE THESE COMPUTERS HAD A FLOOD THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MOVE TO A NON RECURRING? >> INSURANCE. >> THAT WOULD BE INSURANCE AT THAT POINT. IT WOULD COME OFF OF THAT. GOT YOU. >> I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD CLAIM THAT ON, [OVERLAPPING] >> IT'S TRUE YOU NEED TO CLAIM DOWN THAT ON INSURANCE. >> THAT'S NOT UNLIKE OUR CHILLER THAT HAD EXPERIENCED A POWER SURGE AND WE HAVE REPLACED THE CHILLER RISES MIDDLE. THERE WAS AN ASSURANCE. >> NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO ELEMENTARY MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL. [02:15:03] WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE FOR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, WE ONLY GIVE DR. JOHNSON A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY TO SPEND, AND THAT'S ON FIFTH GRADE TRANSITION. BASICALLY, THAT HELPS OUR FIFTH GRADERS GO AND VISIT THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS TO ORIENT TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS, WALK AROUND, GET A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE IN THAT TRANSITION TIMES REALLY IMPORTANT THING. THEN WHAT YOU'LL SEE FOR OUR 17 ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, YOU'LL SEE OUR PPA ALLOCATION. WE BUDGET $63 PER STUDENT IN THOSE SCHOOLS BASED ON THEIR SEPTEMBER 30 COUNT, AND THAT GOES OUT TOWARDS SUPPLIES, RECOGNITION, AND ENRICHMENT PROGRAMMING THAT THE SCHOOLS HAVE BUDGETED OUT FOR EACH OF THE SCHOOLS. THE NEXT SEVERAL PAGES, YOU'LL SEE OUR 17 ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS LINE OUT HERE, CHARLESTOWN, WAY, ALL THE C SCHOOLS, AND THERE'S MANY OF THEM. ALL THE WAY OVER TO ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF PAGE 48 IS WHERE I'M GOING TO MOVE TO NEXT AFTER WE CLOSE OUT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. THIS MIDDLE SCHOOL EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR LINE. THIS IS WHERE NORTH BAY LIVES. I WANT TO COMPARE YOU AND WALK BACK TO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT FOR FAIR HILL NATURE CENTER, WHERE THEIR SERVICES FOR THE AMOUNT THAT WE BUDGET FOR THEM, FOUR GRADES K THROUGH FIVE ARE ABOUT $18 A STUDENT. WHEN WE LOOK AT NORTH BAY, THAT JUST SERVICES SIXTH GRADE, ABOUT 1000 STUDENTS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ABOUT $350 A STUDENT. THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN COST. WE HAVE BEEN IN TALKS WITH NORTH BAY. TO SEE IF THERE CAN BE ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THEIR PROGRAMMING. WE WILL CERTAINLY KEEP YOU ABREAST OF THOSE AS THEY PRESENT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO US. >> NOW BE A TIME TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATION NORTH BAY. >> IT WOULD BE. [OVERLAPPING] >> I KNOW QUITE A BIT HERE FOR SIX MONTHS. LET ME GIVE YOU OUR PERSPECTIVE. WHETHER IT'S FAIR HILL OR NORTH BAY. I WILL MAKE THE CASE TO DO THIS. THEN I'LL GIVE YOU SOME DOWNSIDES, THEN WE CAN KICK IT AROUND. IT'S PART OF ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION. THAT'S HUGE. AS PART OF ONE OF THE SIGNED STANDARDS, OUR STUDENTS ARE EXPECTED TO HAVE EXPOSURE TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS. BOTH OF THESE INSTITUTIONS ARE VERY UNIQUE TO CECIL COUNTY, AND FOR MANY OF OUR STUDENTS, THEY NEVER GET AN OPPORTUNITY EVER TO SEE WHAT THESE PLACES OFFER. PARTICULARLY WITH NORTH BAY, THERE'S A LONGSTANDING TRADITION OF WEEK LONG TRIPS, SPENDING THE NIGHT. FOR PRICE TAG, IT'S NOT CHEAP. WE CAN DEBATE THE VALUE IN TERMS OF, IS IT WORTH IT, SO TO SPEAK? WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD RELATIONSHIP WITH FAIR HILL. WE ARE RECOMMENDING AN INCREASE. NOW I'M ON FAIR HILL. I'VE LEFT NORTH BAY. WE ARE RECOMMENDING AN INCREASE IN FAIR HILL. THEY SERVE ALL OF OUR STUDENTS K-5, ONE DAY DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR. MOST TIMES STUDENTS GO OUT TO THE NATURE CENTER, OTHER TIMES THIS NATURE CENTER COMES OUT TO THE CLASSROOMS. IN THESE TIGHT TIMES, I GUESS, WE WOULD LIKE SOME DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD AS TO YOUR TOLERANCE, PLEASURE, IF YOU WILL, THE VALUE OF THESE PROGRAMS. THE OVERNIGHT PIECE OF NORTH BAY CAN BE A CHALLENGE IN TERMS OF ARRANGING FIELD TRIPS. I KNOW THE TWO OF YOU CHALLENGE OR CHAPERONED? I KNOW YOU DID. YOU KNOW IT'S WHAT YOU WOULD THINK, SPENDING THE NIGHT WITH A BUNCH OF 12 YEAR OLDS, FOUR NIGHTS IN A ROW, AKA MEDICATION. >> AKA VOLUNTEERS. >> OR MAYBE BOTH. >> AKA VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE NO EXPERIENCE. >> BUT NORTH, THEY'VE BEEN GOOD PARTNERS, AND I'LL SAY THIS TO THEM TO THEIR CREDIT. THEY'VE ENGAGED WITH US MULTIPLE TIMES. THEY'RE WILLING TO ADAPT AND BE FLEXIBLE. THEY WANT TO CONTINUE THE RELATIONSHIP. I KNOW THEY'VE HAD DIALOGUE WITH THE NEW COUNTY ADMINISTRATION ABOUT HAVING THEM COVER PARENTHESES, MAINTENANCE OF EFFORT. COUNTY JUST CAN'T COME IN AND FUND A SEPARATE PROGRAM. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FACTORED IN TO THEIR MAINTENANCE OF EFFORT. THAT'S JUST SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT, AND WE'RE INTERESTED TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL WHERE YOU LAND ON THIS? >> WHAT YOU JUST SAID, COULD THEY APPROACH THE COUNTY TO SAY THEY WANT IT FUNDED AND THEN THEREFORE CIRCUMVENTS OUR VOTING? >> I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO. I'M SPECULATING A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S NOT AN UNEDUCATED SPECULATION. I'M PRETTY SURE THE ANSWER THAT THEY CAN'T DO THAT. >> GOT IT. >> DO YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAKDOWN ON HOW MUCH IS TRANSPORTATION OF THIS VERSUS HOW MUCH IS THE ACTUAL. >> I'LL TOSS OUT SOME NUMBERS. >> NO, GO AHEAD. >> TRANSPORTATION IS A SEPARATE LINE FOR 22,000. THIS 350 IS JUST A PAYMENT TO NORTH BAY. THIS ALSO DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR IF WE NEED TO PAY [02:20:01] TEACHERS TO WORK BEYOND THE DUTY DAY BASED ON THE LENGTH OF THE DAY OF THE TRIP. >> TOTAL. >> PROBABLY CLOSER TO 400. >> 400,000. >> YEAH. >> CLOSER TO $400. WE'RE TALKING JUST TO PUT THIS INTO CONTEXT. FIVE DAYS, DAYS ONLY, FOUR DAYS AT NORTH BAY, ONE DAY IN THE HOME SCHOOL? >> CORRECT. >> GOOD DISTINCTION. >> YES, THAT'S ACCURATE. >> THOUGHTS BOARD. >> MY INITIAL THOUGHT IS THAT IF WE HAD THE MONEY, I WOULD BE LIKE, YEAH, OF COURSE, THIS IS A GREAT THING TO PROVIDE TO OUR KIDS, BUT I THINK OF IT AS FIVE POSITIONS THAT WE DESPERATELY NEED. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO DOES DO THOSE FIVE POSITIONS MEAN MORE THAN A TRIP TO NORTH BAY. I'M SPEAKING FROM MY POINT OF VIEW WITH MY KIDS, DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC MAYBE THAN SOME. IT WASN'T MEANINGFUL TO MY KIDS, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN ON THOSE TRIPS BEFORE AS A FAMILY. IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SEE IT FROM A POINT OF VIEW WHERE THEY'VE NOT SEEN THOSE TRIPS. IT WAS ENDED UP BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A HEADACHE TO THEM, WITH SOME OF THE STUFF THAT OCCURRED THERE, WORRYING ABOUT BRINGING HOME ICE OR CHIGGERS OR WHATEVER ELSE YOU CAN GET BEING IN THOSE CLUB THERE WAS SOME ISSUES THERE BECAUSE THAT DOES HAPPEN WHEN YOU'RE OUT IN THE WOODS. BUT MY KIDS, AGAIN, HAVE BEEN ON THOSE TRIPS, SO IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SPEAK FROM WHAT YOU JUST SAID. SOME OF THESE KIDS MAY NEVER HAVE BEEN TO SOMEWHERE LIKE NORTH BAY OR TO EXPERIENCE THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S WORTH. BUT I THINK EITHER FIVE MORE TEACHERS OR MORE PAIRS OR MORE SECURITY IN OUR BUILDINGS, WHICH WE NEED DESPERATELY. THAT SEEMS LIKE A NEED TO HAVE THE MORE POSITIONS, AND THIS SEEMS MORE LIKE A NICE TO HAVE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE IN A POSITION WHERE WE CAN HAVE NICE TO HAVE RIGHT NOW. THIS IS ONLY ONE THING ON THE LIST THAT'S A NICE TO HAVE, I THINK. THERE'S OTHERS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET TO POSSIBLY IF WE DON'T GET THE MONEY WE NEED. >> I THINK WHEN WE EQUATE IT TO POSITIONS, YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT IF YOU GET RID OF THIS, WE CAN ADD POSITIONS INSTEAD. MY POINT OF VIEW IS, I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALISTIC. I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT A STATE REVENUE DEFICIT. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT PLACES TO CUT, NOT SUPPLANT WITH SOMETHING ELSE. UNFORTUNATELY, I WOULD LIKE I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, WE NEED TO SUSTAIN TEACHERS THAT WE HAVE, INCLUDING THE NEW ONES THAT WE PAID FOR OUT OF FUND BALANCE THAT AREN'T IN THE FY25 BUDGET OPERATING COSTS. BUT I THINK YOU TALK ABOUT THE EDUCATIONAL VALUE OF NORTH BAY VERSUS THE TEAM BUILDING ASPECT OF NORTH BAY. I THINK WHAT I KNOW PERSONALLY SPEAKING, MY KIDS GOT MORE OUT OF THAT TEAM BUILDING PART. THE ROPE SWING, OR THE ROPES COURSE, THE GIANTS SWING, THE ZIP LINE, THE FUN STUFF THAT IT TEACHES YOU TO FACE YOUR FEARS AND WORK TOGETHER AND WORK AS A TEAM? IT'S HARD FOR ME TO RATIONALIZE A $400 PER STUDENT COST FOR SOMETHING THAT THE ACADEMIC NEEDS OF OUR STUDENTS, I GUESS THEY'RE GETTING SOME OF THE HANDS ON STUFF, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT ADAPTING THE PROGRAM, LIKE SHORTENING IT. WHAT IF WE ONLY WENT FOR ONE DAY OR IF THEY CAME TO US FOR ONE DAY AND WE WENT THERE, WHAT DOES SOMETHING LIKE THAT LOOK LIKE? I KNOW THE TRANSPORTATION COSTS WOULD STILL BE THERE OBVIOUSLY IF WE GO, BUT THEY'D BE REDUCED BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING FOUR DAYS. THINGS LIKE THAT IS WHAT MY BRAIN IS PROCESSING RIGHT NOW. >> JUST ONE OTHER THING. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE LOOKED AT OTHER PROGRAMS FOR TEAM BUILDING THAT COME IN AND WHAT THE EXPENSE OF THAT WOULD BE. I DO UNDERSTAND THE EXCITEMENT AND THE BUILD UP THAT THESE KIDS, I'M SURE THE FIFTH GRADERS RIGHT NOW ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT TRIP. THEY'VE HAD THEIR OLDER SIBLINGS GO AND I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S A STANDARD WE'VE HAD FOR A LONG TIME. IT'S SOMETHING THAT, THEY'VE LOOKED AT AND SAID, OH, MY OLDER BROTHER OR SISTER WENT THERE, I WANT TO DO THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL. BUT AGAIN, LIKE MS. HAWLEY WAS SAYING, $400 PER STUDENT FOR ONE GRADE IS A LOT TO PUT OUT. ONE, I GUESS, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE OTHER OPTIONS THAT NORTH BAY CAN OFFER US, AND ALSO ARE THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE LOOKED INTO THAT CAN OFFER A SIMILAR THING FOR LESS MONEY. >> I HAVE SOMETHING REAL QUICK. DO WE HAVE ANY INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND FAMILIES ABOUT HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT AND HOW VALUABLE THEY FEEL IS A VALUE ADDED TO THE. [02:25:01] >> WE DID A SURVEY OF TEACHERS. >> THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT. YOU CAN TRY AND PARSE THROUGH A LOT OF. >> FOUR NORTH. >> FOR NORTH BAY. YOU COULD TRY TO PARSE THROUGH AND MAKE IMPLICATIONS AND ASSUMPTIONS AS TO WHY THIS AND THAT. BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, THERE IS A LOT OF SUPPORT TO CONTINUE WITH NORTH BAY FROM THE TEACHERS. WE DID NOT SUPPORT OUR FAMILIES. LET ME JUMP A COUPLE STEPS AHEAD BECAUSE TO ME, A LOT OF THIS GETS TWISTED UP IN THE WILL WE HAVE THE MONEY? I THINK IF WE ALL KNEW WE HAD THE MONEY, IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER DECISION, BUT WE DON'T KNOW. WHAT I SEE US OWING YOU IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS IS A BOTTOM LINE. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO REQUEST FROM THE COUNTY. IF WE REQUEST THIS, THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT TO HAVE TO REDUCE OR NOT. EVERYTHING THAT'S IN HERE. I DON'T KNOW THAT I SEE THE COUNTY BEING ABLE TO DO THAT. AGAIN, WE WILL BRING YOU A CONCRETE RECOMMENDATION. BUT I THINK IN THIS SPIRIT OF FRUGALITY AT THE MOMENT, I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE TO OPERATE FOR NIL, AND PLUS THE WILDCARD OUT HERE, IS THAT WE'RE EXPECTING UPWARDS OF FIVE MILLION AND CHANGE NEW MONEY FROM THE STATE THAT I DON'T BELIEVE IS EVER GOING TO COME. SO THAT WHATEVER YOU APPROVE, I CAN SEE WHEN THE WEATHER BREAKS AND IT'S WARM, US HAVING TO PEEL BACK EVEN MORE. BUT TO ME, AS FAR AS THE MONEY WISE, IT GOES BACK TO WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR WITH THE FIELD HOUSE QUESTION WHERE WE DEBATED THAT AND WE VOTED ON IT AND WE KNEW WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY NECESSARILY TO DO IT, BUT WE DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD. I MEAN, BOARD VOTING DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD. KEEP IN MIND THAT THAT MONEY CAME RIGHT FROM THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT AS [OVERLAPPING]. IT HAD BEEN KICKED DOWN THE ROAD FOR SO LONG. THIS WILL COME OUT OF WHAT I CALL YOUR TEACHING AND LEARNING MONEY. THIS WILL COME OUT OF THE OPERATING BUDGET. IF WE DON'T DO IT TO YOUR POINT, MS.HAWLEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY BE ABLE TO HIRE MORE TEACHERS, BUT WE MIGHT NOT HAVE TO REDUCE POSITIONS BECAUSE OF IT OR WHATEVER ELSE. IF WE HAVE TO FIND $6 MILLION [OVERLAPPING]. I SUGGESTED THREE POSITIONS FOR THE BLENDED VIRTUAL PROGRAM ABOUT 11:00 THIS MORNING. THAT'S THE KIND OF THING. YOU START TO HAVE SOME TRADE OFFS. SHE JUST SAID WE WOULDN'T HAVE TRADE OFFS. SHE SAID, I MEAN, WE'LL HAVE TRADE OFFS, BUT WE WON'T HIRE NEW TEACHERS WITH THE NORTH BAY MONEY. THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID. WELL, I DON'T THINK SHE SAID THAT AS A DECISION. I CERTAINLY DIDN'T SAY THAT AS A DECISION. I CERTAINLY SOUNDED LIKE. BUT IT'S A MATH THING. IT'S A MATH THING. IT DEPENDS WHERE THE NUMBERS LAND. IF WHAT'S PROPOSED IS $400,000 RIGHT NOW FOR NORTH BAY AND YOU END UP, LET'S SAY DR. HAMMER WHO HAS MET WITH NORTH BAY COMES TO SOME AGREEMENT THAT THEY CAN DELIVER SOME LEVEL OF PROGRAMMING FOR $100,000, YOU'VE JUST SAVED $300,000. WELL, THEN WHAT WILL YOU DO WITH THAT 300,000? COULD THAT BE POSITIONS? IT COULD. IT'S RECURRING REVENUE. WILL IT BE ENOUGH, WHICH I THINK WAS MS. HAWLEY'S POINT? NO. I THINK WHAT MS. HAWLEY WAS TRYING TO SAY IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE AT A DEFICIT AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND CUTS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ADDING. WE'RE GOING TO BE TRYING TO KEEP PROGRAMS AND PEOPLE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. MOVING OUR ARMS. TO THE POINT OF BVP TEACHERS, THAT'S ALSO TAKING THE LOAD OFF OF SOME OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOL TEACHERS. ACUTELY RIGHT. TO REDUCE CLASS SIZES IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, WHICH IS DESPERATELY NEEDING. I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY CLASSROOM IN HOUSE TEACHERS, BUT IT'S REDUCING CLASS SIZES. IF WE GOT OUR FULL ASK FOR BUDGET, OBVIOUSLY THE BIG IF NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, PROBABLY AND THE STATE GAVE EVERYTHING THEY SAID THEY'RE GIVEN. THEN THIS MONEY WOULD END UP BEING MONEY THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY USE FOR EITHER WE'RE DECIDING TO ADD PEOPLE OR TO DO THIS PROGRAM. BUT IF WE DON'T GET ALL THE MONEY WE'RE ASKING FOR, THEN THIS IS ONE OF THE CUTS, COULD BE ONE OF THE CUTS, WHICH DOESN'T RESULT ANYTHING BETTER. WE WILL BE COBBLING TOGETHER REVENUE WELL INTO THE SUMMER. WE'LL BE LOOKING AT ANY POTENTIAL FUND BALANCE OR SAVINGS WE MAY REALIZE. I'VE SUGGESTED A FEW TIMES PUBLICLY THAT WE LOOK AT OUR OPEB AS A REVENUE. I KNOW THAT GIVES MISS SOPA HEARTBURN. IT DOES ME TOO. OPEB IS OTHER POST EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS, IT'S AN ANNUITY THAT SETS ASIDE MONEY FOR RETIREE HEALTHCARE. AT THAT POINT, WE'RE IN COBBLE MODE. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THIS BUDGET ASSUMES ALREADY THE USE OF 6.1 MILLION DOLLAR IN FUND BALANCE. AS PART OF THE REVENUE THAT WE PUT TOGETHER, WE'RE INCLUDING USING 6.1 MILLION OF FUND BALANCE TO DO THIS. THAT'S WHEN YOU START TO DO THE MATH. HOW MUCH LESS WILL WE GET FROM THE STATE? WHAT CAN THE COUNTY AFFORD TO GIVE US? THEN HOW MUCH OVER IS THIS BUDGET FROM THAT REVENUE NUMBER. IT'S DIFFERENT BUT SAME. [02:30:03] WE'RE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NICE TO HAVE MONEY. WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT SET ASIDE MONEY. THE SET ASIDE MONEY IS IN CASE WE NEED IT, BECAUSE WE ANTICIPATE IT, BECAUSE WE'VE DONE IT BECAUSE HISTORICALLY IT'S HAPPENED. A QUESTION COMES UP EVERY NOW AND AGAIN BECAUSE OF WE'RE A GOVERNMENT ENTITY, GOVERNMENT BUDGETS, ESPECIALLY BIG GOVERNMENT, SPEND IT OR LOSE IT. CAN YOU GO INTO CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE DON'T FUNCTION THAT WAY, I KNOW. BE I'VE SEEN US SET IT ASIDE, NOT USE IT AND THEN IT GOES SOMEWHERE ELSE THROUGH OUR MONTHLY BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS. ONE OF DR. BUSES, I THINK IT IS $50,000 FOR SECURITY CONSULTANTS THROUGH TECHNOLOGY. THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T NEED IT, WE DON'T SPEND IT AND IT WOULD DEFAULT BACK INTO YOUR FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. THE MONEY THAT ISN'T A USE IT OR LOSE IT WAY. NOW, SOME OF YOUR RESTRICTED POTS CAN BE, BUT I THINK THAT'S A DECENT EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY. WE AS A TEAM, YOU AS A TEAM SCRUTINIZE THAT, SET ASIDE MONEY. IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S THERE, JUST GO AHEAD AND USE IT BECAUSE WE HAVE IT. CAN WE THEN WITHIN THE YEAR, INSTEAD OF GOING TO FUND BALANCE, IS THERE A PIVOT THAT CAN BE DONE ON OUR MONTHLY TO WHERE IT GETS YOU SOMEWHERE ELSE IF IT'S NEEDED? WE DO THAT. BUT SOMETIMES AND THAT HAPPENS A LOT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GET CLOSER TO THE END OF THE YEAR, BECAUSE WE KNOW AT THE END OF THE YEAR, EVERYONE'S NOT GOING TO SPEND DOWN TO THE PENNY, AND YOU CAN USE SOME OF THOSE ACCOUNTS TO BALANCE OTHER ACCOUNTS INSTEAD OF BALANCING WITH THE FUND BALANCE. EARLIER IN THE YEAR, IT'S HARD TO SAY, JUST BECAUSE ATHLETICS IS SITTING WITH THE BALANCE, IF YOU LOOKED AT THE LAST BOARD REPORT, ATHLETICS IS SITTING WITH THE BIG BALANCE, THEY HAVEN'T PAID WINTER COACHES YET AND WE HAVEN'T PAID FOR SPRING SPORTS AT ALL YET. IT'S A LITTLE DECEIVING BECAUSE YOU REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT'S LEFT. BUT THERE ARE TIMES YOU BUDGET FOR SOMETHING. WE'RE BUDGETING A YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS IN ADVANCE ALMOST FOR SOME DATES AND YOU THINK SOMETHING'S GOING TO COST A CERTAIN AMOUNT. SOMETIMES IT COMES IN LOWER, SOMETIMES IT COMES IN HIGHER. WE'RE ALWAYS AND THAT'S WHAT THOSE BUDGET AMENDMENTS ARE EVERY MONTH. SOME COST MORE THAN WE THOUGHT OR LESS THAN WE THOUGHT. WHAT I CAN THINK OF IS OUR ATTORNEY FESS WERE WAY OVER THIS YEAR. DOES THAT MONEY COME FROM ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING FEES WERE DOWN SO WE CAN MOVE IT OR FROM OUR FUND BALANCE. THAT'S EXACTLY THE KIND OF THING THAT WE DO ON A MONTHLY BASIS. THERE IS A LIKE A REAL BIG EFFORT. IT FEELS LIKE IT TO ME THAT YOU GUYS ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT MONEY, AND IT'S NOT LIKE IT WAS BUDGETED, JUST GO AHEAD AND SPEND IT. SOME PEOPLE FEEL THAT WAY BECAUSE WE ARE GOVERNMENT. THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST LIKE [OVERLAPPING]. I'M THINKING, WHAT CAN I SPEND IT ON NEXT YEAR? YES, EXACTLY. THAT'S THE REPORT THAT YOU GET EVERY MONTH WHERE WE ACTUALLY BREAK IT DOWN OUR ACTUAL SPENDING AND THAT LAST PAGE OF THE REPORT FOR OUR RESTRICTED BUDGET ACTUALLY BREAKS DOWN EVERY ONE OF THESE DEPARTMENTS BY WHAT OUR ORIGINAL BUDGET WAS, OUR REVISED BUDGET, OUR ACTUAL SPEND, WHAT'S ENCUMBERED IN PURCHASE ORDERS, AND WHAT WE HAVE LEFT. AND SO THAT'S JUST A GOOD VISUAL FOR YOU, EVERY MONTH, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE DEPARTMENTS TO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT. THAT'S WHAT WE USE TO KEEP TRACK TOO. WE'RE OFF AT THE END OF THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION. DOES SET ASIDE MONEY GET LOOKED AT AS I MEAN, IT'S A BIG RISK TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO JUST DO INSTEAD OF 30,000 SET ASIDE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO 15, BUT IT COULD BITE US IN THE BUTT. IS THAT WHERE WE FIND SOME OF OUR GAP IN BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT MONTH? THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT. A BIG RISK TO IT OBVIOUSLY. I MEAN, BACK IN FIXED CHARGES, THERE'S A LINE FOR EMPLOYEE LOSS. IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO REIMBURSE, THAT'S DAMAGED HERE, AND WE DIDN'T BUDGET FOR THAT THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY EXPENSES IN 24. YOU TAKE A LITTLE GAMBLE ON THOSE TYPES OF SMALL THINGS KNOWING THAT IF SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN, THEN YOU HAVE TO FIND IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. HEALTHCARE IS ARE PERFECT. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS GOING. TWO OF THE LARGER VARIANCES IN TERMS OF EXPENDITURES FISCAL YEAR TO FISCAL YEAR, ONE BEING HEALTH CARE FOR SURE BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE A FAVORABLE YEAR AND IT COULD SAVE YOU $245 MILLION OR THE OPPOSITE. WE PLAY THAT AND THEN ALSO SALARY SAVINGS. WE HAD A CHEMISTRY TEACHER RESIGN FROM PERRYVILLE HIGH SCHOOL. UNTIL WE FILL THAT PERSON NOW, MIND YOU, HE WAS A VETERAN TEACHER WITH A DOCTORATE DEGREE. AFTER ALL THE FIXED CHARGES, HE WAS PROBABLY $140,000 YEAR EMPLOYEE. HE'S GOING TO BE REPLACED UNTIL WE HIRE SOMEBODY WITH A SUBSTITUTE TEACHER WHO'S NOT $140,000. EVERY DAY, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A SAVINGS, AND THAT'S THE THING I THINK SOME OF THE COUNTY LEADERS STRUGGLE WITH. THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT DYNAMIC WITH 1,200 PEOPLE. IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. IT'S THIS CONSTANT MOVEMENT, ESPECIALLY WITH SALARIES. HEALTHCARE TENDS TO BE A LITTLE MORE STATIC AND PREDICTABLE. BUT THAT'S HOW WE ENDED UP FAVORABLE LAST YEAR. WAS A COMBINATION OF COMING IN FAVORABLE WITH HEALTHCARE AND SALARY SAVINGS DURING THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, [02:35:02] AND UTILITIES WAS FAVORABLE. [INAUDIBLE]. LAST NOVEMBER, WE TOLD PRINCIPALS. IT'S BEEN REFERRED TO A COUPLE OF TIMES WHAT $68 $63 PPA. THAT'S PER PUPIL ALLOTMENT. EVERY CHILD THAT'S IN THE SCHOOL, YOU MULTIPLY IT BY $65 AND THAT PRINCIPAL GETS THAT LITTLE BUCKET OF MONEY TO BUY GLUE AND THOSE THINGS. WELL, NOVEMBER, WE TOLD OUR PRINCIPALS, STOP SPENDING MONEY. IF YOU WANT TO BUY SOMETHING, REACH OUT TO YOUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND GET PERMISSION, THEN YOU CAN BUY IT. WE WERE ABLE TO SAVE SOME MONEY DOING THAT. I'M GOING TO TIE THIS BACK TO NORTH BAY FOR A SECOND AND WHERE WE STARTED HERE. I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE BOARD IS THAT THIS IS AN A HIGH TICKET ITEM ON THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH $400,000, AM I CORRECT? CORRECT, FOR ME. CORRECT FROM ME. I STRUGGLE WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO REPLACE IT WITH TEACHERS. THAT'S WHERE I STRUGGLE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. I'M ALL ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCES. I'M ALL ABOUT GETTING KIDS OUT OF THE CLASSROOMS AND GETTING TOUCHY FEELING THINGS LIKE LEARNING, EXPERIENTIAL HANDS ON LEARNING. I'M ALL ABOUT IT. I HATE TO SEE NORTH BAY AND FAIR HILL GO IF IT CAN'T BE REPLACED WITH TEACHERS. BUT I KNOW WE NEED TEACHERS. I KNOW WE NEED PAIRS. IF WE'RE LOOKING AT FIVE NEW TEACHERS AND WE'RE OR 10 NEW PAIRS OR SOME OF THE EQUIVALENT, THEN MAYBE IT'S GOT TO GO. BUT IF WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT NEW PAS, IF WE'RE NOT LOOKING A NEW TEACHERS, THEN I THINK IT'S AN EXPERIENCE THAT THE KIDS REALLY GET A LOT OUT OF, AND WE SHOULD KEEP IT. BUT IT COULD BE REDUCING, TEACHERS. IT COULD BE SAVING TEACHERS AND PAIRS. IT COULD BE SAVING THEM. IF IT COMES DOWN TO TEACHERS AND PAIRS, I'M ALL ABOUT THE TEACHERS IN PAIRS. YOU'RE ALL ABOUT IT IF IT'S SAVING THEM OR HIRING THEM. CORRECT. BOTH WAY. INSTEAD OF REDUCING 15, MAYBE WE'RE JUST REDUCING 12. HOW ABOUT THIS? HOW DO THEY SEPARATE FAIR HILL AND NORTH BAY? BECAUSE I LOOK AT THEM AS BEING PART OF THE SAME. I KNOW IT'S DIFFERENT, BUT IT'S STILL A SIMILAR IDEA. MY RETORT, MY PUSHBACK TO THAT WOULD BE THAT SCALE IS THAT FAIR HILL IS MUCH MORE OF A BARGAIN. AND MIND YOU, THIS INCREASE IS GIVING THEM $13 PER CHILD. FOR THE LAST BETTER PART OF 20 YEARS, THEY'VE LIVED CLOSER TO $607 A CHILD. I MEAN, SO MY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO PREPARE A BUDGET THAT YOU ALL WILL APPROVE THAT GOES TO THE COUNTY. UNLESS I WERE TO HEAR, OTHERWISE, SOMETHING COMPELLING, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO PUT TOGETHER A BUDGET THAT SCALES BACK WHAT WE'VE CURRENTLY DONE WITH NORTH BAY IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY AND THEN BE PREPARED TO SHOW YOU ALL WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH THE SAVINGS. WHAT ABOUT A PAY TO PLAY AS WELL THING? THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED, AND I'M NOT AVERSE TO THAT. THE ONLY CAUTION I WOULD THROW OUT THERE IS THAT EVEN IN YOUR NON TITLE 1 SCHOOLS, LET'S TAKE A CALVERT. I'M GOING TO GUESS FREE REDUCED LUNCH AT CALVERT'S MID 30S PERCENT. ONE OUT OF EVERY THREE STUDENTS ON PAPER IS COMING FROM POVERTY. ONE OPTION WOULD BE TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM COVERS THOSE STUDENTS WHO ARE ON FREE REDUCED LUNCH AND THE OTHER FAMILIES PAY. WHICH IS WHAT WE'D STILL BE PAYING FOR 60% BE ABOUT. CORRECT. YOU BE LOOKING ABOUT 15 BUCKS A KID FOR FAIR HILL. WHAT ABOUT TRYING TO FIND PEOPLE TO SPONSOR KIDS? YOU COULD ALWAYS DO THAT. MY PROBLEM WITH AND YOU MIGHT GET LUCKY HERE OR THERE, HIT AND MISS, BUT IF YOU START TO LOOK AT THE RAW BUDGET OF SOMETHING LIKE BPAC, THEY HAVE A PROBLEM MEETING THAT LIFT SO THAT I THINK IT'S LIKE A YOU CAN RATE A GRANT THIS YEAR AND GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT, BUT NEXT YEAR YOU'RE CHASING AGAIN. I THINK THE CLEANER PLAY, IF THIS IS THE BOARD'S DIRECTION WOULD BE TO REQUIRE THAT THIS GETS PAID AT THE BUILDING LEVEL BY THE FAMILIES. I WAS GOING TO SAY, DO WE OFFER OTHER FIELD TRIPS WHERE FAMILIES PAY FOR? IF SO, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF TITLE 1 MONEY SOMETIMES GOES AND COVERS KIDS WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY FOR THE FIELD TRIP. I MEAN, SOMETHING LIKE FAIR HILL IS MORE MANAGEABLE TO DO THAT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT $15 A KID VERSUS $400 A KID, YOU CAN'T ASK FAMILIES TO PAY FOR THAT. I THINK IT WOULD STILL MEAN THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO MODIFY WHAT WE'RE OFFERING, WHAT WE OFFERED THIS YEAR TO NEXT YEAR. MODIFY WHAT? MODIFY THEM. THE AMOUNT OF DATA IS THE WHOLE PACKAGE. TO ME, FAIR HILL IS A LOT CLEANER. IT'S 6,000 STUDENTS. IT'S 13 BUCKS. IT'S ONE DAY, WHEREAS NORTH BAY IS CLOSER TO $400 PER CHILD FOR JUST ONE GRADE. I MEAN, I AGREE WITH THAT. I WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE AGAINST TAKING AWAY FAIR HILL AT THAT PRICE. [02:40:04] BUT I DO THINK IT'S A DIFFERENT SCOPE. COULD NORTH BAY DO A ONE DAY SIMILAR TO WHAT FAIR HILL DOES? I MEAN? WELL, THAT'S BEEN SOME OF THE DISCUSSION. WE'VE LOOKED AT MAYBE A COUPLE OF DAYS, ONE DAY OUT THERE AND ONE DAY IN SCHOOL, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT DR. HAMMER HAS ALREADY HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS. WE HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS LAST WEEK WITH NORTH BAY. WE HAD TWO OF THE REPRESENTATIVES COME IN AND THEY ARE GOING BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND HOPING TO HAVE SOMETHING TO US THIS OR NEXT WEEK. SOME OPTIONS. IF WE DID PAY TO PLAY, DO WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY? I KNOW WE PROBABLY HAVE A MORAL OBLIGATION, BUT DO WE HAVE A REAL OBLIGATION TO COVER ALL FARMS TUITION TO GO? IS THAT LEGAL OR IS THAT JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANY LEGALITIES, BUT DO I THINK WE SHOULD? I THINK WE SHOULD. I MEAN, I THINK THAT THE PAY TO PLAY CONVERSATION IS WAY FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD WHEN WE KNOW WHAT TYPE OF REVENUE WE'RE GETTING. I HATE TO. I MEAN, AGAIN, I AM NOT A FAN OF PAY TO PLAY AT ALL. BUT I THINK IT'S WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS TO CUT OUT OF BIG ITEMS OUT OF THIS PARTICULAR PACKAGE THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US. I THINK THAT IS BASED ON WHAT REVENUE WE GET, BUT WE DON'T KNOW OUR REVENUE YET. THESE ARE ALL THINGS TO KEEP IN OUR HEAD. WE DON'T APPROVE OUR FINAL FINAL BUDGET UNTIL JUNE. AT THAT POINT, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S. WHEN WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. MAYBE MAYBE I'M WRONG. BUT IF WE WENT TO PLAY TO PLAY, WHAT ABOUT THE EXTRA MONEY THAT THE FARM KIDS GET? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT EXTRA. >> BECAUSE I THOUGHT THEY GET A BASE OF WHAT? 08,000 A YEAR. AND THEN EVERY TIME A DISABILITY COMES IN THERE, THEY GET ANOTHER X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS. >> NO, THAT'S NOT FARMS. FARMS IS TITLE 1. >> BUT DON'T THEY GET EXTRA MONEY? DON'T THE FARM SCHOOLS GET EXTRA MONEY? >> I THINK WE TALK ABOUT TITLE 1 MONEY? THAT WOULD BE THE SOURCE WE WOULD LOOK TO. BUT AGAIN, I THINK, WE CAN TRY TO NAIL THIS DOWN NOW THE FIRST WEEK IN FEBRUARY. THIS IS NOT GOING TO GET IRONED OUT UNTIL JULY, AUGUST. >> IS THERE A DATE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONTRACT SIGNED WITH THEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? >> I WOULD THINK BEFORE WE GO. WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING PUT TOGETHER WITH THEM. I WOULD THINK TOWARDS THE END OF THIS SCHOOL YEAR. KEEP IN MIND THAT WITH FAIR HILL NATURE CENTER, WE ONLY PAY THE FEES AT FAIR HILL NATURE CENTER. THE COST OF TRANSPORTATION FOR A ONE DAY TRIP DOES GO BACK TO FAMILIES. THAT'S HOW IT'S BUDGETED RIGHT NOW. IT'S JUST THE FEES. WE DO NOT COVER TRANSPORTATION RIGHT NOW IN OUR BUDGET. >> THEN DOES THE SCHOOL PICK UP THE KIDS THAT CAN'T PAY FOR TRANSPORTATION? >> OFTENTIMES TITLE 1 SCHOOLS WILL COVER THE FEES. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE SCHOOLS CHOOSE TO DO. >> BUT WE DON'T LEAVE SOME LITTLE THIRD GRADER BEHIND. >> A LOT OF TIMES YOUR PARENT ORGANIZATIONS WILL KICK IN AND COVER. I MEAN, IT KIDS AREN'T LEFT BEHIND BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PAY. >> I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE DIRECTIONS IN TERMS OF AND I THINK THE NEXT STEP IS OURS TO BRING YOU SOMETHING. AGAIN, THE ONLY CAUTION I WOULD SAY IS THAT ANY STEPS WE TAKE TO PEEL BACK RECOMMENDED EXPENDITURES NOW, IT'S EARLY TO SAY, WITH THIS SAVINGS, YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS AND WITH THIS SAVINGS, YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT. IT'S JUST TOO SOON. >> WHILE WE'RE STILL IN MIDDLE SCHOOL MODE, ONE OF THE LAST THINGS I'LL SAY ON THE MIDDLE SCHOOL EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, WE DO HAVE A LINE TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION TO ORIENT OUR EIGHTH GRADERS TO WHAT LIFE IS LIKE IN HIGH SCHOOL. THEY GO AND VISIT THEIR HIGH SCHOOLS AND DO SOME TRANSITION WORK FOR THAT. THE NEXT SEVERAL LINES ON THE NEXT TWO PAGES, YOU'LL SEE OUR SIX MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND THEIR PPA ALLOCATION, WHICH GOES ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 49. THAT'S WHEN YOU'LL SEE 90,000, WHICH IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR HIGH SCHOOL. IN THIS LINE, THIS DOES COVER THE COST FOR AP EXAMS, THE COST OF DUAL ENROLLMENT AND EARLY COLLEGE ACADEMY. YOU CAN SEE THERE HAS BEEN SOME INCREASES IN THOSE FEES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR, AS WELL AS TRANSPORTATION FOR EARLY COLLEGE, SLIGHT INCREASE IN THAT AREA. NEXT, YOU'LL SEE THE PPAS FOR FIVE HIGH SCHOOLS AND THE SCHOOL OF TECHNOLOGY, WHICH ENDS RIGHT THERE. [02:45:01] >> I APOLOGIZE, BUT LOOKING AT THIS IS JUST A WHOLE LOT OF NUMBERS, AND I'M TRYING TO FIND A BIG NUMBER. HOW MUCH ARE WE PAYING FOR KIDS TO GET THEIR ASSOCIATES DEGREES WHEN THEY'RE IN HIGH SCHOOL? >> 242. >> THAT'S EARLY COLLEGE ACADEMY. IT'S ALL OF THE TUITION AND FEES. THAT'S FOR STUDENTS FOR ECA AS WELL AS FOR DUAL ENROLLMENT? >> IT'S 242? >> THERE'S TWO NUMBERS. 480 AND 242. >> 480 IS EARLY COLLEGE ACADEMY. >> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BUDGETING. >> THEN 242 FOR THE DUAL ENROLLMENT AS WELL. >> CORRECTLY, CORRECT. >> IS THAT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO THROUGH THE BLUEPRINT? >> YES. >> THERE'S NO WIGGLE ROOM THAT WE COULD HIRE MORE TEACHERS WITH THAT MONEY? >> LAST YEAR WE TALKED [BACKGROUND]? >> WE DID HAVE A DECREASE FOR DUAL ENROLLMENT. ONLY CERTAIN COURSES WERE OFFERED. >> TRYING TO GO BACK. >> POTENTIALLY, WE MAY HAVE TO. MAYBE ONE OF THESE DISCUSSIONS WE HAVE TO HAVE. >> THAT'S BECAUSE THE CCR FUNDING PROVIDED BY THE BLUEPRINT WASN'T ENOUGH. THAT'S WHY WE PULLED BACK ON SOME OF THE DUAL ENROLLMENT FOR THIS SCHOOL YEAR. >> [BACKGROUND]. >> WE HOPE SO. >> THEY RECALIBRATED THE FORMULA TO DETERMINE WHAT CCR WOULD BE. THERE WAS A DIP ONE YEAR AND IT'LL BE BACK. >> WE GET FUNDED PER STUDENT WHO IS DESIGNATED AS COLLEGE AND CAREER READY. BECAUSE THE WAY THEY CALCULATED HOW THAT'S DETERMINED CHANGED, NUMBERS WENT WAY DOWN AND NOW THEY'RE GOING TO GO UP FOR THIS YEAR. THE MONEY SHOULD COME BACK FOR THAT. >> ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WILL NOT SEE IN THIS BUDGET ARE AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES. IN THE PAST, WE HAD BUDGETED A CERTAIN AMOUNT FOR EVERY SCHOOL FOR AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES THAT THE SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT TEAM OR INSTRUCTIONAL CABINET WOULD DEEM SOMETHING THEY WANTED TO DO IN THEIR BUILDING. WE WANTED TO HAVE A RECYCLING CLUB OR A RUNNING CLUB. BUT WE HAVE PULLED BACK ON ALL OF THOSE AFTER SCHOOL CLUBS BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL WE CAN SEND FORWARD. IT'S A NICE TO HAVE. THEY HAVE BEEN CUT COMPLETELY IN THIS BUDGET. >> THE NEXT LINE YOU SEE AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 50 IS AN INSURANCE RECOVERY LINE. IN MR. FERDINANDOS EXAMPLE EARLIER, WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING A CATASTROPHE THAT HAPPENS, AND WE SUBMITTED TO THE INSURANCE TO GET REIMBURSEMENT. WE DO GET REIMBURSED, BUT IN THE TIME THAT WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT REIMBURSEMENT, WE HAVE TO HAVE A BUDGET TO START TO PAY FOR THOSE THINGS. THIS JUST ESTABLISHES A BUDGET, SO IF THERE'S A REPAIR, WE CAN GET MOVING ON THE REPAIRS BECAUSE OFTEN WE COMPLETE THE REPAIR, WE GET REIMBURSED. IT GIVES US A BUDGET TO START WITH THAT'S REIMBURSED BY MAY. AFTER THAT IS AN INDIRECT FEE LINE, AND BASICALLY WHAT THE INDIRECT FEE IS, IT'S A FEE THAT WE CAN CHARGE. IT'S A PERCENTAGE OF GRANT FUNDING, FOOD NUTRITION, AND IT'S FOR US MANAGING THE ACTIVITIES OF THOSE GRANTS. IT'S FOR OUR BUSINESS SERVICES, OFFICE WORK, OUR HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICES WORK, AND THE THINGS THAT WE DO. IT'S AN INDIRECT FEE. IT'S NOT AN EXACT REVENUE, BUT IT OFFSETS YOUR EXPENSES. THEN WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THE 999, THIS IS THE FTE SALARIES. I WOULD DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE LAST PAGE OF YOUR HANDOUT THAT YOU RECEIVED, WHERE WE SHOWED IN THE LAST BUDGET PRESENTATION, WE SHOWED OUR UNRESTRICTED POSITIONS. AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE UNRESTRICTED BUDGET, NOT THE RESTRICTED BUDGET. THESE POSITIONS ARE ALL REFLECTED HERE IN THESE NUMBERS. IF YOU CORRELATE THESE TWO CHARTS, AGAIN, THIS IS BY STATE CATEGORY AND BY OBJECT. IF YOU REFER BACK TO THIS CHART, YOU SEE YOUR STATE CATEGORIES AND YOUR OBJECTS, AND THIS TELLS YOU THE NUMBER OF POSITIONS IN EACH ONE OF THOSE LINES. THIS REPORT TELLS YOU HOW MUCH THOSE POSITIONS COST. AGAIN, YOU CAN TIE OUT THE TOTAL AND FTE SALARIES HERE WITH THAT CHART THAT WE SHARED AT OUR LAST BOARD MEETING. THIS ASSUMES ALL OF THE POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE THIS YEAR, INCLUDING THE ONES THAT WE'VE ADDED MID YEAR USING OUR FUND BALANCE OR SALARY SAVINGS. IT ALSO INCLUDES AN EXTRA 10 POSITIONS ON TOP OF THAT GOING INTO NEXT YEAR THAT ARE MOSTLY POSITIONS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THE RESTRICTED BUDGET INTO THE UNRESTRICTED BUDGET BECAUSE OF GRANTS ENDING. THAT REALLY BRINGS US TO THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION. QUESTION. >> I JUST WANT TO THANK THE BOARD, [02:50:01] JUST THE LEVEL OF QUESTIONS AND AWARENESS. I GUESS THIS IS MY SEVENTH. WE ALL GET BETTER AS IT THE MORE WE DO AND IT'S PRETTY EVIDENT. I THINK IN YOUR QUESTIONS, YOUR UNDERSTANDING, AS WELL AS THE LEADERSHIP TEAM HERE TO MY LEFT AND THE FOLKS BEHIND ME, I GUESS I'M SENIOR PERSON HERE NOW. IT'S GOOD TO SEE THE DETAILED THOUGHT, MULTIPLE PEOPLE, NO ANSWERS IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, IT TAKES TIME. I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE? NOW IT'S YOUR CHANCE. >> I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO SOUND REALLY GOOFY, BUT WHAT ABOUT ALL THESE OTHER PAGES? >> THE OTHER PAGES LEAD INTO THE RESTRICTED BUDGET. THOSE ARE ALL OF THE GRANTS. BASICALLY WHEN WE SHARED AT THE JANUARY MEETING, THOSE ARE THE GRANTS THAT WE'RE OPERATING WITH NOW, WHAT WE'RE PREDICTING WILL BE NEXT YEAR, AND IT'S WHAT'S BUDGETED NOW THAT WE CARRY OVER INTO NEXT YEAR. LIKE THE TITLE MONEY, THE FEDERAL GRANTS, WE DON'T GET THOSE BUDGETS TILL THE END OF THE SUMMER, BEGINNING OF THE FALL. IT'S REALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW. IT'S NOT ANYTHING NEW THAT WE PREPARED FOR NEXT YEAR. THIS IS THE BUDGET THAT GOES TO THE COUNTY WHERE THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT DECIDES WHAT ALLOCATION THEY CAN PROVIDE TO SUPPORT OUR UNRESTRICTED BUDGET. BUT YOU DO HAVE ALL THE OTHER DETAIL FOR THE RESTRICTED BUDGET IF YOU'RE INTERESTED. >> BUT IT'S RESTRICTED AND IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. IT MATTERS, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER. >> WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SAYING. >> WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT. >> I'M CHANGING IT RIGHT NOW. >> THE DEFINITION OF RESTRICTED IS THAT THEY'RE TELLING YOU HOW TO SPEND IT. >> ANYONE ELSE? GOING ONCE? >> NO. JUST REAL QUICK. IF WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THE 1.9 MILLION IN PENSION AND 1.5, 1.9, WHATEVER ISH AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS COULD HAPPEN. WHAT ARE YOU GUYS LOOKING AT AS A LEADERSHIP TEAM FOR THE AREAS TO BALANCE THE BUDGET? >> I THINK WHAT YOU'LL SEE OUR APPROACH WILL BE A LITTLE BIT LIKE LAST YEAR IN THE SENSE THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. LET'S SAY WE ARE $8 MILLION AS A HYPOTHETICAL, IF WE'RE $8 MILLION SHORT OF WHAT WE ASK FOR. WE WILL HAVE A TIERED OUT SET OF REDUCTIONS. IF WE NEED EIGHT AND WE GET SIX, WE'LL RECOMMEND TO YOU THE TWO. IF WE NEED EIGHT AND WE GET FOUR, WE'LL RECOMMEND YOU THE FOUR. WE'LL HAVE A PLAN READY TO GO SO THAT IN THE EVENT ONCE WE GET NUMBERS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TURN SOMETHING AROUND TO YOU ALL IN THE NEXT 24 OR 48 HOURS. WE COULD PROBABLY STAY HERE TILL 6:00 TONIGHT AND KNOCK IT OUT NOW. WE'RE CLOSE. SO MUCH OF THIS IS PREDICATE ON IS THE STATE GOING TO DO WHAT THEY ARE PRESCRIBED TO DO AT THE MOMENT AND EXACTLY HOW MUCH WILL THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE RECOMMEND, KNOWING THAT HISTORICALLY, COUNCIL HAS NOT DONE WHAT THEY CAN DO IN TERMS OF MOVING MONEY AROUND. TYPICALLY WHAT THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE HAS SAID THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WILL GET HAS BEEN WHAT WE GET. THEN ONCE WE START TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS, WE WILL THEN START COMING BACK TO YOU AND SAY, , THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. BUT AGAIN, KNOWING THAT EVEN AS THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE DECIDES HIS BUDGET, HIS BUDGET IS GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THE STATE AS WELL. FRANKLY, MAY, JUNE,. >> IN JUNE IS WHEN WE NEED TO APPROVE OUR FINAL. >> OUR FINAL BUDGET. >> BALANCED BUDGET. >> I THINK WHERE YOU MAY BE GOING WITH THIS, WE ADDED IN 73 POSITIONS COMPARED TO FY25, I'D LIKE TO TRY TO PROTECT AS MANY OF THOSE AS WE CAN. KNOWING THAT IT'S NOT 73 TEACHERS. TWO-THIRDS OF THEM ARE SUPPORT PEOPLE WHICH TEND TO BE LESS EXPENSIVE. I WOULD TRY TO PROTECT THOSE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THE COMMUNICATION WE'VE HAD WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE HAS BEEN THAT OUR GOAL IS TO STOP PAYING FOR RECURRING POSITIONS OUT OF OUR FUND BALANCE. BUT I THINK THAT'S A LONGER TERM THING THAT HOPEFULLY HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. BUT I DO THINK RIGHT NOW FROM WHAT WE'VE HEARD, IS THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE IS A GOOD FAITH PARTNER WHO WANTS TO DO THE BEST HE CAN, KNOWING THAT IT'S TAKEN US THREE, FOUR YEARS TO GET TO THIS PLACE. THAT'S GOING TO TAKE US THAT LONG TO GET OUT OF IT. [02:55:03] IF YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS, THOUGHTS PREFERENCES, OR HOW WE MAKE UP THOSE KIND, WHEN YOU'RE PAYING 83, 84% OF YOUR COST IS PEOPLE, IT'S TOUGH TO START TAKING SIGNIFICANT PIECES OF MONEY AND REDUCING WITHOUT IT AFFECTING PEOPLE. THE MATH THERE. >> THIS IS A LITTLE OFF OF THAT TOPIC, BUT I KNOW WE'RE LOSING OUR TUTORING MONEY, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY DEVASTATING FOR OUR ELEMENTARY STUDENTS BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS A REALLY PRODUCTIVE WAY OF HELPING THOSE LEARNERS THAT ARE STRUGGLING. WHAT ARE WE DOING? THIS MAYBE FOR DR. JOHNSON TO OFFSET THAT. >> BEFORE DR. CHASE WEIGHS IN, THAT WILL HAPPEN TO US IN FY27TH. WE'LL HAVE ONE MORE YEAR OF TSI, AND SO DR. CHASE. >> ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS TRYING TO TRAIN AND EQUIP OUR TEACHERS TO SUPPORT STUDENTS AS BEST WE CAN WITH THE RESOURCES WE HAVE. A BIG PORTION OF TUTORING RIGHT NOW THROUGH TSI GOES THROUGH CHAPTER 1, ABOUT $830,000. THAT'S EVERY KINDERGARTEN AND FIRST GRADE CLASSROOM IN THE DISTRICT HAS A CHAPTER 1 TUTOR. AS A COUNTY HAVE MOVED TOWARDS FOUNDATIONS IN OUR LITERACY PROGRAMMING, OUR EARLY PROGRAMMING, WE ARE EQUIPPING OUR TEACHERS TO BETTER SUPPORT THOSE STUDENTS WITH THOSE EARLY LITERACY SKILLS, WHICH IS WHAT THOSE CHAPTER 1 TUTORS ARE DOING. I'M ALSO OPTIMISTIC THAT MARYLAND'S CONTINUED INTEREST IN THE AREA OF LITERACY IS GOING TO LEAD TO SOME STATE INVESTMENT. FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE AWARE THAT OVER THE COURSE OF THIS MONTH, THEY'RE OPENING A GRANT FOR LITERACY SUPPORT. I THINK THERE'LL BE A WAY TO PRESERVE SOME MONEY, CERTAINLY NOT ALL, BUT SOME MONEY TO HOPEFULLY CONTINUE THOSE PRACTICES. >> IN THE PENDING GOVERNOR'S BILL, THERE'S A PIECE THAT SPEAKS TO INCREASED FLEXIBILITY IN THE COP MONEY, WHICH IS THE CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY, A REQUEST FROM THE SUPERINTENDENTS TO THE STATE BECAUSE THE STATE WILL PROMULGATE REGS. A REQUEST WE WOULD HAVE WOULD BE ALLOW FOR SOME OF THAT COP MONEY TO BE USED TO SUPPORT DURING THE DAY TUTORING FOR HIGH NEED STUDENTS. >> I'LL REINFORCE THAT THAT WE HAVE 10 OF OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS OR TITLE 1 ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND MANY TITLE 1 SCHOOLS USE TUTORING TO SUPPORT. OUR MOST NEEDY SCHOOLS WILL HAVE THAT STILL, EVEN THOUGH TSI IS WANING ACROSS THE WHOLE DISTRICT. >> A QUICK QUESTION. IS TSI SUBJECT TO ANY WIGGLE ROOM, AS FAR AS FEDERAL OR STATE OR WHO DECIDES ON WHETHER LIKE KENNED EARLIER, HOW DOES THAT WORK? THE REASON I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THESE EXECUTIVE ORDERS AND ALL THAT. I HATE TO KEEP GOING BACK THERE, BUT WE'RE IN UNCHARTED WATERS RIGHT NOW AND THINGS ARE HAPPENING EVEN AS WE'RE TALKING NOW, THERE'S THINGS GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES AS FAR AS THIS DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND ALL THAT STUFF. JUST WONDERING. >> THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT KINDS. TSI IS USED FOR TWO DIFFERENT FUNDING. THE TSI WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS A TRANSITIONAL SUPPLEMENTAL INSTRUCTION, WHICH IS STATE FUNDING, IT'S BLUEPRINT FUNDING, AND IT COMES FROM THE STATE IN THE COUNTY. THERE'S ALSO A TSI PART OF A SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT GRANT THAT'S A FEDERAL GRANT, AND THAT STANDS FOR TARGETED SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT. TWO DIFFERENT BUT THE TSI WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS OUR BLUEPRINT MONEY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE USING THAT YOU SEE IN THIS BUDGET BECAUSE OUR UNRESTRICTED BUDGET, AND THAT'S COMPLETELY STATE AND LOCAL FUNDING. IT'S NOT FEDERAL. >> FEDERAL FUNDING WOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW THE STATE WOULD GO FORWARD WITH IT, I GUESS. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? >> THAT TITLE FUNDING IS UNRELATED TO THIS BUDGET? >> NO OTHER QUESTIONS. COMMENTS. I JUST WANT TO THANK BUSINESS SERVICES, MR SOPA LEADERSHIP TEAM. MR. WILLS THERE. DR. MILLER. MISS OLSON. EVERYONE WHO CAME AND CONTRIBUTED TO THIS PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE DISCUSSION. BOARD MEMBERS, THANK YOU. I THINK IT WAS A REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION, GOOD QUESTIONS. I APPRECIATE YOUR FLEXIBILITY. I KNOW A COUPLE OF YOU HAD TO TAKE OFF IN ORDER TO BE HERE TODAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT. WITH THAT MEETING ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.